Reply to: Commision votes against travel ban

[Old Greg]

The intent was clear from the start a Federal Europe run by Germany & France, each treaty has been a step towards that goal.

What is clear to a cretin like you is of little importance.

[NotAllThere]

German efficiency at its best!

We neglected to claim the VAT back this time.

[clearedforlanding]

The intent was clear from the start a Federal Europe run by Germany & France, each treaty has been a step towards that goal.

Cool! So you will be able to provide a citation if the intent is clear.

[vetran]

IMHO he's blaming the wrong treaty.

https://europa.eu/european-union/sit...n_union_en.pdf

No mention anywhere of a democratic vote of the people. God forbid they produce the wrong result.

The intent was clear from the start a Federal Europe run by Germany & France, each treaty has been a step towards that goal.

[vetran]

Germany has closed its borders from midnight last night, with a few exceptions. Nipping across the border to do some food shopping isn't one of them, as the lady at the checkout told us this morning as we paid... oops.

Car park full of Swiss cars as well.

But at least France is still open to us.

German efficiency at its best!

[NotAllThere]

Germany has closed its borders from midnight last night, with a few exceptions. Nipping across the border to do some food shopping isn't one of them, as the lady at the checkout told us this morning as we paid... oops.

Car park full of Swiss cars as well.

But at least France is still open to us.

[Mordac]

Humour me please with a citation from the treaty.

IMHO he's blaming the wrong treaty.

https://europa.eu/european-union/sit...n_union_en.pdf

No mention anywhere of a democratic vote of the people. God forbid they produce the wrong result.

[Mordac]

Nope

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Gissa clue then.

[darmstadt]

Nope

Building a fence to keep out illegal immigrants isn't the same thing*. (If that's what you were referring to?)

*I'm not condoning that, btw.

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[Mordac]

That has actually happened, Google is your friend

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Building a fence to keep out illegal immigrants isn't the same thing*. (If that's what you were referring to?)

*I'm not condoning that, btw.

[clearedforlanding]

You might want to try the 1957 treaty of Rome.

Humour me please with a citation from the treaty.

[Mordac]

So Mordac does not have a source. Vetran, can you help him out?

They're not going to publish their intentions in a manifesto. Read the rantings of Selmayr, it's all in there. The future European Government, designed from the ground up to by-pass democracy. If you didn't get the chance to put them there, what chance do you think you'll ever have to remove any of them?

[xoggoth]

No friend of the Frogs and I loathe Macaroni Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey but it isn't unreasonable to protect your own citizens.

Not sure it will help much tho. as there are virus mutations in several other countries according to the news.

[vetran]

So Mordac does not have a source. Vetran, can you help him out?

You might want to try the 1957 treaty of Rome.

[darmstadt]

That has actually happened, Google is your friend

What if they (or another nation) want to close the border with another EU member? Covid has opened a can of worms, shutting borders is against free movement. Give it a couple of years, and no EU member will be permitted to close its borders. For any reason. One Europe, all in it together.

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