Reply to: Now finally we know WTFH's public persona :)

[Whorty]

My source for the comment about the majority of MAMILs being white english males is based on living in an area that is popular with cyclists and seeing who goes through, who stops, who leans their bike up against my neighbour's car to have a pee on the car door, etc.

If you wish to contradict that, feel free to.

Could have been worse, he could have done a Tom Dumoulin

[WTFH]

source?

My source for the comment about the majority of MAMILs being white english males is based on living in an area that is popular with cyclists and seeing who goes through, who stops, who leans their bike up against my neighbour's car to have a pee on the car door, etc.

If you wish to contradict that, feel free to.

[vetran]

HP.

Yours?

Oh I'm like you, I make it up!

[WTFH]

saurce?

HP.

Yours?

[vetran]

Funny that Farage is talking about this. The majority of MAMILs in the UK are not:
1. Female
2. Non-white
3. Bearded
4. Non-English
5. Immigrants

All the things he hates. There may well be a correlation such that MAMIL = ‘KIPper.

(I’d not bet £10,000 on it though)

source?

[WTFH]

Funny that Farage is talking about this. The majority of MAMILs in the UK are not:
1. Female
2. Non-white
3. Bearded
4. Non-English
5. Immigrants

All the things he hates. There may well be a correlation such that MAMIL = ‘KIPper.

(I’d not bet £10,000 on it though)

[AtW]

Bike riders & walkers do cause CO2 emissions some methane as well.

Only old farts, Shirley?

[vetran]

Bikes don't cause CO2 or similar emissions, and they don't damage the road surfaces. Pretty similar to walkers/joggers don't get taxed for walking on the footpath

Bike riders & walkers do cause CO2 emissions some methane as well.

[AtW]

Bikes don't cause CO2 or similar emissions, and they don't damage the road surfaces. Pretty similar to walkers/joggers don't get taxed for walking on the footpath

Yes for sure, the subtle but important point I was making was that 0% road tax is not the same as no road tax.

[Whorty]

0% rate of VAT does not mean product is not VATable

Same here - for NOW road tax on electric cars is 0, but that’s not for long - now on bicycles there is actually no road tax requirement at all

Bikes don't cause CO2 or similar emissions, and they don't damage the road surfaces. Pretty similar to walkers/joggers don't get taxed for walking on the footpath

[AtW]

0% rate of VAT does not mean product is not VATable

Same here - for NOW road tax on electric cars is 0, but that’s not for long - now on bicycles there is actually no road tax requirement at all

[Whorty]

It’s a tax on a motor vehicle - does not matter what politicians choose to call it

But it's not because electric motor cars (currently) don't pay it - well, technically they are zero rated but same principle. This is despite these cars still causing damage to roads the same as other vehicles, taking up space, and hence adding to the cause of traffic jams.

Take 50% of vehicles off the road and there will be virtually no traffic problems. Take 100% of cyclists off the road and the roads will still be full. Therefore, the problem is not with cyclists.

As with all entrenched views though, logic is ignored and the problems must be being caused by 'them' and not 'us'

[AtW]

It’s a tax on a motor vehicle - does not matter what politicians choose to call it

[ladymuck]

It's vehicle excise duty. Charged/paid according to CO2 emissions.

[Whorty]

<yawn> There is no such thing as road tax. It's an emissions tax, hence why electric cars don't pay either. Feck-wit.