Reply to: Lock down or give up?

[SueEllen]

I don't need to know the rules around the country, only where I live. So do you. And regardless, it's not about "what can I do" it's about "what do I need to do".

Some of us work and have family in different areas, which is why we need to know the rules in different areas.

Nope, it'll be awful. But arguably worth it. Possibly less pain overall than the current mess where the virus is rampant, and everyone is miserable. FWIW tradesmen etc were NEVER prevented from working during the national lockdown and it still worked. If you NEED to be working in close proximity to others, there are ways to minimise risk.

Why is it some tradesmen like young people don't understand about mask wearing?

[Zigenare]

Maybe we should have a referendum to decide the way forward.

~48% of the UK wouldn't accept the result.

~45% of Scots would demand another referendum.

The Welsh, WGAF?

[d000hg]

Right so you shouldn't visit your family who help you out or need help?

Odd that older children and young adults can hang round in groups of up to 350....

AVoid contact with people you don't need to be in contact with. Take cautions when you do.

Except that's not "the rules" - there are currently at least 4 or 5 variations of "lockdown" in various parts of the country.

I can go to the pub, but I can't go to somebody elses house.

I don't need to know the rules around the country, only where I live. So do you. And regardless, it's not about "what can I do" it's about "what do I need to do".

The "lockdown now" types are generally people that think the entire country can do what they have done and work from their spare bedroom on their macbook pro.

Nope, it'll be awful. But arguably worth it. Possibly less pain overall than the current mess where the virus is rampant, and everyone is miserable. FWIW tradesmen etc were NEVER prevented from working during the national lockdown and it still worked. If you NEED to be working in close proximity to others, there are ways to minimise risk.

[SueEllen]

Ditto with T1. It's probably only a matter of time before they'll be T2.

What even Cornwall?

Need to get the police and army to man the roads in.

[DealorNoDeal]

Bearing in mind the evidence that every T2 is heading to T3 why are they not implementing T3 on everyone now... not when it's already escalated.. It's too late.

Ditto with T1. It's probably only a matter of time before they'll be T2.

[northernladuk]

And not the only country that is failing in this respect

Absolutely...

But to be fair no other countries government has managed to get it right either so it's not ours that's incompetent... to a certain degree.

[darmstadt]

That responsibility starts with every person in the country... and we are failing.

And not the only country that is failing in this respect

[northernladuk]

there is no plan of how to come out of lockdown...

That responsibility starts with every person in the country... and we are failing.

[darmstadt]

This is just an underhand way of getting the whole country in lockdown rather than doing it all in one go. Regions will go from tier-1 then to tier-2 and finally tier-3 and eventually the whole country will be in lockdown. There will then be the mooted tier-4 but there is no plan of how to come out of lockdown...

[minestrone]

In Scotland...

"Make it look like a football league table and they might have a chance of understanding it"

https://twitter.com/ConnorGillies/st...91372245061633

[ladymuck]

Bearing in mind the evidence that every T2 is heading to T3 why are they not implementing T3 on everyone now... not when it's already escalated.. It's too late.

I agree. The patchwork nature is not helpful to anyone.

[northernladuk]

London on verge of tier 3 as R rate jumps to 2.9 | Metro News

London could be on the verge of being placed under the harshest coronavirus lockdown restrictions after the R rate skyrocketed to as high as 2.9. The rate of infection in the capital is now thought to be the highest in the country. Figures released by the Department of Health and Social Care, compiled by Imperial College London and Ipsos Mori, indicate the virus continued to grow exponentially in the week to October 25. However, its prevalence remains lower than other ‘very high’ risk regions such as Manchester and Liverpool, City AM reports.

Bearing in mind the evidence that every T2 is heading to T3 why are they not implementing T3 on everyone now... not when it's already escalated.. It's too late.

[ladymuck]

I'll succumb to a bit of DOOM...

London on verge of tier 3 as R rate jumps to 2.9 | Metro News

London could be on the verge of being placed under the harshest coronavirus lockdown restrictions after the R rate skyrocketed to as high as 2.9. The rate of infection in the capital is now thought to be the highest in the country. Figures released by the Department of Health and Social Care, compiled by Imperial College London and Ipsos Mori, indicate the virus continued to grow exponentially in the week to October 25. However, its prevalence remains lower than other ‘very high’ risk regions such as Manchester and Liverpool, City AM reports.

[Paddy]

The "lockdown now" types are generally people that think the entire country can do what they have done and work from their spare bedroom on their macbook pro.

Ms Whiplash thinks working from home is fine

[minestrone]

The "lockdown now" types are generally people that think the entire country can do what they have done and work from their spare bedroom on their macbook pro.