Reply to: Face masks

[WTFH]

FFP3 is a dust mask spec. It's not able to stop bugs. You need a "Face Fit" type. No facial hair, of a type that for instance Asbestos removal workers use with replaceable filter casings and seals that can be cleaned every time they are used. They aren't comfortable but they will block azzy fibres.

HSE has good guidance on RPE. I guess FFP3 will do if there's nothing else, but they cannot be pre-wetted with any kind of fluid. Best defence would be to breath in through your nose. As well as an FFP3 mask.
They will be useful if you can't get out of the habit of touching your face though.

Respiratory protective equipment (RPE)

Yes, you need the mask to be fit tested and fit checked.

[Lost It]

FFP3/N99.


But you really want a visor mask to protect you from others.

FFP3 is a dust mask spec. It's not able to stop bugs. You need a "Face Fit" type. No facial hair, of a type that for instance Asbestos removal workers use with replaceable filter casings and seals that can be cleaned every time they are used. They aren't comfortable but they will block azzy fibres.

HSE has good guidance on RPE. I guess FFP3 will do if there's nothing else, but they cannot be pre-wetted with any kind of fluid. Best defence would be to breath in through your nose. As well as an FFP3 mask.
They will be useful if you can't get out of the habit of touching your face though.

Respiratory protective equipment (RPE)

[NotAllThere]

I just wish that the district nurses and carers that come to our house everyday had SOME protective equipment apart from gloves and plastic aprons.
The carers were given 3 disposable masks each but they save them to use for one of their clients who has a cough

Himself is already on NIV 24/7 so there is no hope if he gets this virus and he certainly wont be going into hospital.

The carers in the community who travel from home to home caring for the disabled and sick seem to be at the bottom of everyone’s list when it comes to PPE its a fecking disgrace

We've just received 500 facemasks from a concerned friend in China. We're sending them over to the UK. Really.

[Pogle]

I just wish that the district nurses and carers that come to our house everyday had SOME protective equipment apart from gloves and plastic aprons.
The carers were given 3 disposable masks each but they save them to use for one of their clients who has a cough

Himself is already on NIV 24/7 so there is no hope if he gets this virus and he certainly wont be going into hospital.

The carers in the community who travel from home to home caring for the disabled and sick seem to be at the bottom of everyone’s list when it comes to PPE its a fecking disgrace

[NotAllThere]

I had a feeling of déjà vu - I've merged the threads discussing the same issue.

[xoggoth]

to avoid touching your face, especially your eyes, just dip your fingers in chili oil. Wash your hands before going to the toilet...

If the material the mask is made of is not ultra-fine, from the virus' point of view, it's just a bunch of loosely connected holes.viruses, and even the particles they ride in on are very very small.

True, but also larger particles/droplets that masks would stop will contain them too, and more of them. Read somewhere that infection with larger numbers of the virus is likely to be more serious, they multiply quicker and give you less time to build immunity.

[NotAllThere]

Because even in "normal" breathing there can be aerosols generated, also if you're wearing a mask, you won't be touching your mouth with your hands, so you won't be leaving a trail everywhere you touch.

to avoid touching your face, especially your eyes, just dip your fingers in chili oil. Wash your hands before going to the toilet...

If the material the mask is made of is not ultra-fine, from the virus' point of view, it's just a bunch of loosely connected holes.viruses, and even the particles they ride in on are very very small.

[DimPrawn]

How about some of these, put some hepa filter material inside where the mouth and nose is.

Sensong Paintball Mask Airsoft Masks Full Face Skull Mask with Clear PC Lenses Tactical Protection for Halloween Paintball BB Gun CS Game Cosplay and Party Fans Supplies Silver Gray: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors

[Anonimouse]

We got 20 masks from Screwfix at the start of the panic buying. Used about 5 thus far, keeping the used ones in a sealed bag, supposedly the virus dies in 2-3 days on it's own so they are self-sterilizing sort of speak.

The main goal of using low grade masks by the public is not so much to stop you from inhaling the virus particles, as much as stopping you from spreading them through coughs and simple exhalation or at the very least significantly reduce the amount/range of the spread.

Paper bags

[AlfredJPruffock]

Yeh. I've got a packet of face masks in the garage that I got when rearranging a bit of the loft insulation. Doubt they'd be very effective. Given me an idea though, I'll be safe if I just lock myself in my loft.

Aye Xoggoth - personally I find my attic experience is enhanced when I wear my mask whilst rearanging the loft insulation - its all part of growing up and being British.

[xoggoth]

in the lottery of life death is inevitable

Rubbish. Doom and gloom fake news!

[xoggoth]

I found three old FMP3 masks at the back of the workshop that I'd bought for decorating and never used. That was handy.

Yeh. I've got a packet of face masks in the garage that I got when rearranging a bit of the loft insulation. Doubt they'd be very effective. Given me an idea though, I'll be safe if I just lock myself in my loft.

[SueEllen]

Face masks do not stop you getting COVID19, they are only effective in stopping you transmitting to others. So I doubt we will be mandated to wear them unless you show symptoms or test positive

The last is unlikely to happen as there is no testing...

[Lockhouse]

I found three old FMP3 masks at the back of the workshop that I'd bought for decorating and never used. That was handy.

[Lost It]

Will the drones be wearing masks?