Reply to: Who should be the next Labour leader?

[BR14]

I vote Whorty.
he's the best.
go Whorty go.

VOTE WHORTY!!!!!

[Whorty]

80% female. no gender balance in Labour.

You could have 99% female and only 1 bloke, but Labour will still vote for the bloke. Can't see the unions wanting a woman as their leader. For a so-called equal ops party it's the only one that's never had a female leader.

[BrilloPad]

80% female. no gender balance in Labour.

[d000hg]

Really? Jesus H Christ

You don't, er, follow politics much then? Or you're kidding and I fell for it

I don't follow minor-league MPs who aren't in government, no. I've heard of Thornberry and I recognise Phillips from BBC Parliament - always seems to be talking - but that's it.

For that matter I could probably only name a handful of Tory MPs and I reckon about a dozen MPs in total. The noisy few get all the attention.

[DeludedKitten]

Corbyn was the Labour equivalent of William Hague - unelectable but had some conviction that they were right and that everyone else was wrong.

Long-Bailey (if she becomes leader) will be Labour's equivalent of IDS - unelectable and forgettable.

There's been talk of RLB/Raynor as a ticket, and also RLB/Burgon as well to keep the momentum of Corbynism going, which is why they aren't getting any blame for the disaster. See this tweet from Tom Watson:

John is one of the most enigmatic characters I ever worked with. We rowed but I admired his intellect and work ethic, which made him the stand out figure in his faction. The defeat is not ‘on him’ though. It is shared with the shadow cabinet and NEC, who supported the manifesto.

For those who don't speak Labour, it translates as "John knows exactly what he's doing here, taking the blame so that those who followed the ideology can escape scrutiny and take over in a few weeks. Stop this happening if you can".

[DealorNoDeal]

Absolutely, but those names are fairly household.

Jess "I can't afford a printer on £80k a year so claim MP's expenses to drive to my mum's and use hers" Phillips.

Rebecca "You have no figures" Wrong Daily.

Angela Rayner, who recently suggested that Corbyn watches the Queen's Speech in the morning on Christmas Day, on catch-up, before it's been transmitted.

Emily Thornberry who scathingly tweeted an image of a terraced house in her constituency, white van outside, St.George flying atop.

They're a shower. I'm hoping for the Long-Bailey / Rayner combo that's now hotly tipped.

Any of them would be more palatable to the electorate than Corbyn.

[Zigenare]

Absolutely, but those names are fairly household.

Jess "I can't afford a printer on £80k a year so claim MP's expenses to drive to my mum's and use hers" Phillips.

Rebecca "You have no figures" Wrong Daily.

Angela Rayner, who recently suggested that Corbyn watches the Queen's Speech in the morning on Christmas Day, on catch-up, before it's been transmitted.

Emily Thornberry who scathingly tweeted an image of a terraced house in her constituency, white van outside, St.George flying atop.

They're a shower. I'm hoping for the Long-Bailey / Rayner combo that's now hotly tipped.

Check out Long-Bailey's record of expenses... Compare them with those of her predecessor. Something does not ring true.

[Platypus]

Most of the country is getting sick of politics.

Absolutely, but those names are fairly household.

Jess "I can't afford a printer on £80k a year so claim MP's expenses to drive to my mum's and use hers" Phillips.

Rebecca "You have no figures" Wrong Daily.

Angela Rayner, who recently suggested that Corbyn watches the Queen's Speech in the morning on Christmas Day, on catch-up, before it's been transmitted.

Emily Thornberry who scathingly tweeted an image of a terraced house in her constituency, white van outside, St.George flying atop.

They're a shower. I'm hoping for the Long-Bailey / Rayner combo that's now hotly tipped.

[BrilloPad]

You don't, er, follow politics much then? Or you're kidding and I fell for it

Most of the country is getting sick of politics.

[Platypus]

I don't know I've heard of any of the current candidates.

Really? Jesus H Christ

You don't, er, follow politics much then? Or you're kidding and I fell for it

[Major Hassle]

I voted for Abbott and Lammy ? Post-election survey: Labour's election campaign and future leadership - LabourList

[Si666]

has anyone proposed Russel Brand yet? He's been pretty quiet since it was discovered that he's not remotely funny and has no talent for acting. Am sure he'd be equally as good as anyone else on the suggested list.

[d000hg]

I don't know I've heard of any of the current candidates.

Historically no party has bounced back from such a trouncing in the next election but on the other hand the Tories won this largely on the back of constituencies which had in some cases never voted other than Labour, or hadn't in living memory.
I think based on the unusual nature of this election then we can assume a large degree of bounce-back to Labour in traditional seats regardless who is leader, unless the Tories do something amazing in such areas and undo generational hatred so complacency is dangerous.

If the country goes to **** post-Brexit as many have predicted, traditional Labour areas are likely to bear the worst of it - ironically those who were most strongly pro-Brexit. In which case the Tories could be booted out through no fault of their own, even, as being seen to blame for shrinking economy, etc.

[DealorNoDeal]

Labour are out for the long-term now, I reckon. They'll probably need to cycle through at least one more leader after an extended period of navel-gazing.

This, probably. Like during the 80s and 90s under Kinnock.

[Mordac]

Diane Abbott?

Anyway, the NEC will see all these entryists and set the cut-off date to, say, 12 December.

Thereby clearing the way for the Long-Bailey/Rayner dream team*.



*tulipshow

Rebecca Wrong-Daily? Tulipshow indeed...