Reply to: Is it cuz i ain't black enough?

[Old Greg]

You would be surprised what you can achieve if you try

Foxconn Is Under Scrutiny for Worker Conditions. It’s Not the First Time. - The New York Times

No I wouldn't.

[vetran]

Supply chains are too complex. Even Fairphone can't guarantee their rare earth mineral are 'ethically' sourced. You can only do your best in a complicated imperfect world.

You would be surprised what you can achieve if you try

Foxconn Is Under Scrutiny for Worker Conditions. It’s Not the First Time. - The New York Times

[Old Greg]

I think there is a place for both.

can we say - We will trade with you if you don't use child/slave labour and your production is green.

Supply chains are too complex. Even Fairphone can't guarantee their rare earth mineral are 'ethically' sourced. You can only do your best in a complicated imperfect world.

[vetran]

But would not trading with such countries actually help these people or make poverty worse?

I think there is a place for both.

can we say - We will trade with you if you don't use child/slave labour and your production is green.

[Zigenare]

But would not trading with such countries actually help these people or make poverty worse?

Society very rarely lifts people up, it has a tendency to level the field by bringing others down.

[xoggoth]

I wasn't aware of that , it does seem time that consumers and businesses start to specify that the supply chain must be 'clean' otherwise they lose business like Foxconn are being punished for child labour etc. At a country level our politicians should work on this and say they are less likely to deal with countries who allow slavery. Yes I know its present in the Uk but its illegal and comparatively rare.

But would not trading with such countries actually help these people or make poverty worse?

[vetran]

It's about time those Indians you're so fond of abolished slavery, don't you think? Maybe India should free its ~18.3 million slaves(2016 figures).

Zig - In "Purveyor of inconvenient facts" mode!

Cheers for sharing, that is sobering. I am a fan of India because they have repeatedly proven a valuable ally whose population here mostly respect our society.

Bonded labourers, sex workers, forced beggars: India leads world in slavery | india | Hindustan Times

I wasn't aware of that , it does seem time that consumers and businesses start to specify that the supply chain must be 'clean' otherwise they lose business like Foxconn are being punished for child labour etc. At a country level our politicians should work on this and say they are less likely to deal with countries who allow slavery. Yes I know its present in the Uk but its illegal and comparatively rare.

Maps | Global Slavery Index

[Old Greg]

Indeed. Spuddy tempers his imbecility with a soupcon of humour. Ziggy is simply an angry dimwit.

Spuddy is a well loved regular in the Barnstaple 'Spoons. At Ziggy's local, the staff know him as "I'm not gay", because that's what he mutters under his breath before ordering, "a pint of wife beater".

[sasguru]

I miss Spuddy's posts. Ziggy unfortunately is a very poor substitute.

Indeed. Spuddy tempers his imbecility with a soupcon of humour. Ziggy is simply an angry dimwit.

[Whorty]

Spuddy is the best.

I miss Spuddy's posts. Ziggy unfortunately is a very poor substitute.

[sasguru]

And out it comes, from underneath its rock, looking timidly from left to right, ensuring it isn't observed and then BAM! Posts its same old tulipe.

Too easy!

[Zigenare]

Must be quite hard to live with yourself.
Triggered again, your short fuse is surpassed only by your low IQ.

And out it comes, from underneath its rock, looking timidly from left to right, ensuring it isn't observed and then BAM! Posts its same old tulipe.

[sasguru]

Perhaps it's because I don't suffer 's and you mate are a .

Must be quite hard to live with yourself.
Triggered again, your short fuse is surpassed only by your low IQ.

[Zigenare]

Indeed

I was just perturbed that when other minorities quite reasonably said "how about telling our stories" (there are some real stories of valour from the Indian and other regiments in WW1) those of African descent seemed to get upset.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...INT_UPDATE.pdf

plenty more inspiring tales from other conflicts

Victoria Cross - Wikipedia


When I find someone who has achieved equally or more I am honoured to share the spotlight with them not jealous.

You saddos may try to mock but they don'y give out awards for finding your arse when looking for your elbow. Not that there is any chance of you managing that.

It's about time those Indians you're so fond of abolished slavery, don't you think? Maybe India should free its ~18.3 million slaves(2016 figures).

Zig - In "Purveyor of inconvenient facts" mode!

[Old Greg]

Indeed

I was just perturbed that when other minorities quite reasonably said "how about telling our stories" (there are some real stories of valour from the Indian and other regiments in WW1) those of African descent seemed to get upset.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...INT_UPDATE.pdf

plenty more inspiring tales from other conflicts

Victoria Cross - Wikipedia


When I find someone who has achieved equally or more I am honoured to share the spotlight with them not jealous.

You saddos may try to mock but they don'y give out awards for finding your arse when looking for your elbow. Not that there is any chance of you managing that.

Don't be perturbed!