Reply to: Ann Widdecombe

[WordIsBond]

bunches of stupid and irrelevant stuff

I apologise to the forum for assuming that you were intelligent enough to actually read and respond to what I actually said. I'll try to avoid the same mistake in future.

[WordIsBond]

Leave trans for a minute.

Here is the thing to consider: if science could make black people white and gay people straight, what would be the result? What would religious fundamentalists, fascists, Leninists and other extremists do with this technology? It is within the context of 'conversion therapy' and Iranian government forced mutilation of gay men etc. that Widecombe has faced such criticism.

Trans is different. This is about people feeling they are born into the wrong body. Not that they feel ashamed.

And I'm sorry for being sarcastic. I misunderstood your intent.

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

Misuse of scientific capability is a problem, of course. But hysterectomies and vasectomies could be abused by racists in a campaign of ethnic cleansing, right? Just about any technology can be abused. If we shut down technology advances because they could be abused by extremists we're back to the Dark Ages.

My family member wants to know why the NHS is willing to do all kinds of things for trans people but won't even do any research for his case, and why anyone who even suggests maybe science could find a way to do something for him is castigated and ostracised. There's no hope on the scientific front, since even if something could be possible it will never be developed for political, rather than scientific or medical reasons. So now he's talking about going off to some religious camp for six months. Not much hope that will end well. At least he's stopped talking about suicide, but I'm not sure whether that's because he's stopped thinking about it or just because he knows it upsets his family.

I think this probably isn't the forum for me to say anymore.

[BR14]

The Bullsh1t is strong in this one!

ftfy

[Zigenare]

No. Everyone is slightly racist. Some people are xenophobic hate-filled Only the part of the anti-racism "industry" that try to tackle the former are pointless and hypocritical.

The virtue is strong in this one!

[NotAllThere]

Which rather makes the anti-racism industry rather pointless and hypocritical don't you think?

No. Everyone is slightly racist. Some people are xenophobic hate-filled Only the part of the anti-racism "industry" that try to tackle the former are pointless and hypocritical.

[TwoWolves]

I think you'll find everyone is racist, left, right, white, brown, yellow, male, female...and so on. Even if they deny it, someone will be able to prove it to their own criteria of what racist is

Which rather makes the anti-racism industry rather pointless and hypocritical don't you think?

[darmstadt]

I think you'll find everyone is racist, left, right, white, brown, yellow, male, female...and so on. Even if they deny it, someone will be able to prove it to their own criteria of what racist is

[xoggoth]

Plenty of "non-whites" are as racist as any member of the BNP and their ilk

Quite true. All humans have the same failings.

[NotAllThere]

Racism is not all black and white (Pun intended). There was an article recently where an Asian lady had a Skin condition which effectively made her white. She was racially abused by her (Asian) 'class mates' at school.

Plenty of "non-whites" are as racist as any member of the BNP and their ilk.

[xoggoth]

Maybe political views are linked to genetics. Bit of genetic engineering and we could get rid of the lefties.

[NigelJK]

Racism is not all black and white (Pun intended). There was an article recently where an Asian lady had a Skin condition which effectively made her white. She was racially abused by her (Asian) 'class mates' at school.

[xoggoth]

"My Gay Dog and Other Animals" is on channel 4 tonight. Not just humans then.

PS

Are you Gay? ZAP

That reminds me of some film. It will come to me later.

[NotAllThere]

Electro-conversion therapy. That's when they blast AC/DC through loudspeakers attached to your temples.

[Old Greg]

I'm all in favour of electro-therapy:

Are you Gay? ZAP

Are you Gay? ZAP

Are you Gay? ZAP

Are you Gay? ZAP

Sorry force of habit ZAP hehe

He's just not that into you.

[Yorkie62]

I'm all in favour of electro-therapy:

Are you Gay? ZAP

Are you Gay? ZAP

Are you Gay? ZAP

Are you Gay? ZAP

Sorry force of habit ZAP hehe