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Previously on "France invites architects to redesign the spire"

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  • DoctorStrangelove
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    Carbuncle designers must be rubbing their hands with glee.

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by zerosum View Post
    Richard Dawkins on Twitter about Notre Dame: 'This is terrible news. One of the world's outstanding architectural treasures.'
    Don't think too many would accuse him of being a religious freak. There is a difference between the Christian religion and Christian culture.

    Also worth a look: Kenneth Clarke on Notre Dame
    And where did he say that it needs to be rebuilt?

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Why rebuild at all, it's a church ffs, built by slaves to empower the clergy over the peasants. Think they could build something nicer in its place
    A block of flats for the ISIS immigrants will go down terribly well. Why don't you go over and suggest it...?

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  • zerosum
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    100s of millions will be spent to restore a building for religious freaks who believe in an imaginary sky fairy. Money that could have been spent on much better things
    Richard Dawkins on Twitter about Notre Dame: 'This is terrible news. One of the world's outstanding architectural treasures.'
    Don't think too many would accuse him of being a religious freak. There is a difference between the Christian religion and Christian culture.

    Also worth a look: Kenneth Clarke on Notre Dame

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by Halo Jones View Post
    If people / companies want to pay for it then crack on, if the majority of the populus agree on a tax for it crack on. if the UK government offers "aid" for it then I will complain.

    But I find it strange that these companies did not step up and give their money when they were looking to repair / maintain the building, as someone said on the radio- its a bit like a distant relative dying: in life you ignored them but in death they become the most amazing person - humans are odd!
    nothing odd. Just a lot more free press with a burnt down cathedral than a shabby one.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Why rebuild at all, it's a church ffs, built by slaves to empower the clergy over the peasants. Think they could build something nicer in its place
    A big Nandos. Yeah, nice idea, you put that forward, and we promise to back you up...

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  • Halo Jones
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    If people / companies want to pay for it then crack on, if the majority of the populus agree on a tax for it crack on. if the UK government offers "aid" for it then I will complain.

    But I find it strange that these companies did not step up and give their money when they were looking to repair / maintain the building, as someone said on the radio- its a bit like a distant relative dying: in life you ignored them but in death they become the most amazing person - humans are odd!

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    100s of millions will be spent to restore a building for religious freaks who believe in an imaginary sky fairy. Money that could have been spent on much better things
    the money wouldn't be available for anything better.
    It's just become a huge vanity project for large companies, the super wealthy, and Macron.
    Factbox: Donors pledge over 700 million euros to rebuild Notre-Dame cathedral - Reuters

    Many cathedrals have had a variety of fires and rebuilds over the years. It's inherent in having a building for getting on for 1,000 years. They were vanity projects then, at the rebuilds, and now.

    It matters not that it might have some modern bits (they all do). It matters not that people may care less, or more. I just don't want to hear about it any more, until it's finished.

    Oh. and the Catholic Church should pay FFS.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    100s of millions will be spent to restore a building for religious freaks who believe in an imaginary sky fairy. Money that could have been spent on much better things
    And if that offers comfort to those in need of it then you'd deprive them of that comfort? That's rather selfish of you, don't you think?

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  • Eirikur
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    100s of millions will be spent to restore a building for religious freaks who believe in an imaginary sky fairy. Money that could have been spent on much better things

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post
    Thank you again for your contribution. Most helpful.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Thank you for your contribution. Most helpful.

    For future reference, this is the context in which my comment was made "individuals who deliberately ignore or disregard important information or facts".

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Lance View Post
    Ignorance is a lack of knowledge.
    Your ignorance about ignorance, is ignorance indeed.
    Thank you for your contribution. Most helpful.

    For future reference, this is the context in which my comment was made "individuals who deliberately ignore or disregard important information or facts".
    Last edited by Zigenare; 17 April 2019, 14:18.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Nope, it wasn't built by slaves. It was built by Carpenters, Master Masons, Craft Masons, Apprentices and labourers. All of whom were paid. The local populace would have been paid by itinerant Masons who lodged with them, the Apprentices would have resided in the "Lodges" built on the site, to guard the site, the materials and tools. The local community would've benefitted greatly by having so many people from out of the area working on the building of the Cathedral.

    From knowledge not gained from the BBC News Website!

    If you have further interest may I suggest you research "Compagnons du Devoir et du Tour de France". Lack of knowledge can be cured, ignorance, probably not.
    Ignorance is a lack of knowledge.
    Your ignorance about ignorance, is ignorance indeed.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Why rebuild at all, it's a church ffs, built by slaves to empower the clergy over the peasants. Think they could build something nicer in its place
    Nope, it wasn't built by slaves. It was built by Carpenters, Master Masons, Craft Masons, Apprentices and labourers. All of whom were paid. The local populace would have been paid by itinerant Masons who lodged with them, the Apprentices would have resided in the "Lodges" built on the site, to guard the site, the materials and tools. The local community would've benefitted greatly by having so many people from out of the area working on the building of the Cathedral.

    From knowledge not gained from the BBC News Website!

    If you have further interest may I suggest you research "Compagnons du Devoir et du Tour de France". Lack of knowledge can be cured, ignorance, probably not.
    Last edited by Zigenare; 17 April 2019, 14:04.

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