Reply to: Nice car hire for a change

[ladymuck]

You can stop it coming on at start up by giving the little button in the middle of the controls a long press. That swtiches off the radio, bluetooth, nav, etc as well. And if it's all turned off like that, then the screen won't pop up.
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I assumed there had to be something like that but I wasn't of a mind to RTFM for a two day hire.

[fiisch]

I'm getting a company car and have opted for the Giulia (petrol).
I don't think anyone in the company is senior enough for a QV.
Best looking car in its class by a country mile and as I won't be coughing out on maintenance or repairs its a no-brainer.
DO you have one? How do you find it? I'm an old school Alfisti so prepared to put up with the, er, "quirks", for some character.

Alas no, I am Alfa-less at the moment, but a fellow Alfisti - had a Mito QV and 156 in the past, and always been a fan of the brand (although pre-Giulia, the model-range was somewhat lacking).

No - I have a Civic Type R as a weekend toy (still a boy-racer at heart!), but have been looking at the Alfa Giulia longingly since it was released as a possible replacement for the wife's Seat Leon (and our main family car). Boring, ugly, slow, uninspiring it may be, but I'm struggling to justify an upgrade as it's still perfectly functional! She will almost certainly get a Giulia once I stop being a tight ****, as have test driven twice and for me in that class it's an easy decision.

[sasguru]

So what I was saying the Alfa may not have a significantly large sample size for their results to be valid

And how did you come to that conclusion? Alfa sell > 3000 cars a year in the UK. It's a more than adequate sample size. If they sold 10 or 20 it would a whole different story. Don't use technical terms you don't understand, makes you look even more stupid than you already seem.

The Alfas of old were horrendously unreliable if they have improved great, but there are so few sold that they hardly move the needle so any conclusions drawn are invalid.

I've owned several Alfas. They score high on "unreliability" because of little niggly issues. However the most reliable car I ever owned was an Alfa 155 which I had fault free for 6 years. And that glorious Twin Spark which while only being 1.8 sang a song like a Welsh tenor.

[vetran]

The main group is the summation of all data. The "other groups" as you put it, are a break down where they have enough respondents to make the results in that group viable.

In the UK, Honda sell per month what Alfa sell per year. So if 1 Honda goes wrong, it doesn't adversely affect Honda's figures, but 1 Alfa going wrong has 12x the effect. Or, to put it on the side of a bus, rather than %, there are over 25,000 unhappy Honda owners whose car is up to 3 years old. There are less than 1,900 unhappy Alfa owners whose car is up to 3 years old.

So what I was saying the Alfa may not have a significantly large sample size for their results to be valid, something you agree with.
You thought that meant you should be rude to me, bit sad really.

The Alfas of old were horrendously unreliable if they have improved great, but there are so few sold that they hardly move the needle so any conclusions drawn are invalid.

[WTFH]

Having owned both an Alfa and a Honda, I'd sooner own another Alfa than a Honda. Alfa have had a resurgence in recent years (although half the range is still ****).

The Giulia is the first Alfa I'd consider in a long while, but as a petrolhead it'd have to be the QV or bust.

My Honda has been very reliable, but I've heard of a lot of owners having serious (i.e.: £5k+ repair costs) faults on new cars and then challenging on the warranty. Meanwhile, Alfa seem to have more niggles than fundamental issues (the switchgear on my brand new Alfa came off in my hand while I was driving out the showroom!).

The Wife (tm) had a Honda CRV. At 5 years old the air con pump went and was a £2k job to replace. After it was replaced we found out there had been a recall on them, but Honda had only contacted the first owner of the car, not the current registered owner.

Giulia QV is nice, unfortunately too low to the ground for where I live, so I had to get a Stelvio with the 280bhp engine. UK spec QV Stelvio is faster to 60 than the UK spec QV Giulia due to the Q4 drive train
Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio vs Alfa Romeo Giulia II QV Auto : Duel 69226349

[sasguru]

Having owned both an Alfa and a Honda, I'd sooner own another Alfa than a Honda. Alfa have had a resurgence in recent years (although half the range is still ****).

The Giulia is the first Alfa I'd consider in a long while, but as a petrolhead it'd have to be the QV or bust.

My Honda has been very reliable, but I've heard of a lot of owners having serious (i.e.: £5k+ repair costs) faults on new cars and then challenging on the warranty. Meanwhile, Alfa seem to have more niggles than fundamental issues (the switchgear on my brand new Alfa came off in my hand while I was driving out the showroom!).

I'm getting a company car and have opted for the Giulia (petrol).
I don't think anyone in the company is senior enough for a QV.
Best looking car in its class by a country mile and as I won't be coughing out on maintenance or repairs its a no-brainer.
DO you have one? How do you find it? I'm an old school Alfisti so prepared to put up with the, er, "quirks", for some character.

[fiisch]

Having owned both an Alfa and a Honda, I'd sooner own another Alfa than a Honda. Alfa have had a resurgence in recent years (although half the range is still ****).

The Giulia is the first Alfa I'd consider in a long while, but as a petrolhead it'd have to be the QV or bust.

My Honda has been very reliable, but I've heard of a lot of owners having serious (i.e.: £5k+ repair costs) faults on new cars and then challenging on the warranty. Meanwhile, Alfa seem to have more niggles than fundamental issues (the switchgear on my brand new Alfa came off in my hand while I was driving out the showroom!).

[WTFH]

interesting the Alfa doesn't make top 5 in any of the other groups and only top 10 in one.

Maybe there aren't enough alfas sold to make a real showing?

The main group is the summation of all data. The "other groups" as you put it, are a break down where they have enough respondents to make the results in that group viable.

In the UK, Honda sell per month what Alfa sell per year. So if 1 Honda goes wrong, it doesn't adversely affect Honda's figures, but 1 Alfa going wrong has 12x the effect. Or, to put it on the side of a bus, rather than %, there are over 25,000 unhappy Honda owners whose car is up to 3 years old. There are less than 1,900 unhappy Alfa owners whose car is up to 3 years old.

[vetran]

Wrong. Again.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/lifes...e-top-5-honda/

interesting the Alfa doesn't make top 5 in any of the other groups and only top 10 in one.

Maybe there aren't enough alfas sold to make a real showing?

[sasguru]

Of course you were - it's an Alfa, so it's hardly likely to actually go anywhere. I'm assuming you were drunk when you bought it...

Wrong. Again.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/lifes...e-top-5-honda/

[greenlake]

My experience of voice control in cars is that it is at best half baked!

[GhostofTarbera]

Back seats review ?

[Mordac]

Me, pushes button: I love you, take me home.
Alfa: WTFH, you're drunk again. We're parked outside the house.

Of course you were - it's an Alfa, so it's hardly likely to actually go anywhere. I'm assuming you were drunk when you bought it...

[WTFH]

My experience of voice control in cars is that it is at best half baked!

Me, pushes button: I love you, take me home.
Alfa: WTFH, you're drunk again. We're parked outside the house.

[original PM]

Summary - RTFM


You'd think she would appreciate having something that does everything she says without answering back or doing a half baked job of it

My experience of voice control in cars is that it is at best half baked!