Reply to: Doubt about Notice Period and contract

[WTFH]

How does the reason help you?

If it is simply the project is cancelled, budget cut etc, then fine.

If they don't believe you are good enough, that should be fine too, but is more likely to have the contractor moaning whinging with something to cling onto ("I'm not rubbish" etc)

If they want me out, I don't want to stay.

Because unless you are direct with the client, it's not the client who cancels your contract. It's the agent.

If an agent chooses to cancel your contract, then making them put something in writing is useful. They might be cancelling it because they decide they can replace you with someone more profitable for them. If they then lie and say it's because the client doesn't need you any more, or the project has been cancelled, then when you find out that the agent lied to you, you can get your legal team onto them. It can also give you an opportunity to part ways with the client on good terms.

[jmo21]

I’ve seen the “terminate without reason” in contracts before, and have asked for it to be removed.
Lesson 1. Read your contract.

How does the reason help you?

If it is simply the project is cancelled, budget cut etc, then fine.

If they don't believe you are good enough, that should be fine too, but is more likely to have the contractor moaning whinging with something to cling onto ("I'm not rubbish" etc)

If they want me out, I don't want to stay.

[TonyF]

I have seen contracts terminates after a week and usually it is because they realise how tulip the contractor is decide to bail out. Failure to speak or write proper English is also a reason at times.

Oh the ironing.

[Lance]

I learnt a valuable lesson many years ago.

I was once told that a contract is valueless until you have a bad disagreement. IE. It just sits in a drawer and nobody reads it, until you f**k up.

And in EVERY case an agency's contract will be able to get rid of you instantly for some reason. When you start looking at your contract because you think you've been hard done to, it's too late, all the decisions have been made, you're out of there.

Unless you can find the agency in material breach of contract then don't waste your time whining.

It may be that the client is wiling to pay for 28 days. Who knows, ask them. Politely. Although I doubt it as it seems they don't like the lookofyourface/soundofyourvoice/cutofyourjib (delete as appropriate).

[WTFH]

I’ve seen the “terminate without reason” in contracts before, and have asked for it to be removed.
Lesson 1. Read your contract.
If your contract was to deliver a specific project and said project was canned, then there is no work for you to do. No work, no signed timesheet. No signed timesheet, no pay.
I’ve probably not signed as many contracts as you, but I’ve only been contracting for around 20 years.

[MrButton]

There is something named CONTRACT where serious people no matter if you are the client, the service provider or the agency must follow. I've 4 years as contractor and in mostly case my contracts used to be short. So I signed already at least 20 contracts. The usual is not as you say.

So far I am used to work with serious people. In 2 others circumstances where the client decided to cancel the project or something like this...I was paid. I think that there is a lot of people here that have sad histories to tell regarding previous experiences. I am sorry to see so much people 100% passive and conformed with circumstances with this dialog of "life is life".

As I told..I am just trying to understand my contract and I expect to see experienced people here give opinion about the contract that I signed. I don't wanna be rude, but I dismiss sad histories and advices about what life must be. This really will not help me.

Seems like you didn’t get the answer you wanted.

Next time I’m due to be on the bench, budge up.

[BR14]

Wow 20 contracts in 4 years that's impressive, and I thought Suity was crap at contracting.

20 zero hours contracts, probably

[fullyautomatix]

I have seen contracts terminates after a week and usually it is because they realise how tulip the contractor is decide to bail out. Failure to speak or write proper English is also a reason at times.

[MarillionFan]

There is something named CONTRACT where serious people no matter if you are the client, the service provider or the agency must follow. I've 4 years as contractor and in mostly case my contracts used to be short. So I signed already at least 20 contracts. The usual is not as you say.

So far I am used to work with serious people. In 2 others circumstances where the client decided to cancel the project or something like this...I was paid. I think that there is a lot of people here that have sad histories to tell regarding previous experiences. I am sorry to see so much people 100% passive and conformed with circumstances with this dialog of "life is life".

As I told..I am just trying to understand my contract and I expect to see experienced people here give opinion about the contract that I signed. I don't wanna be rude, but I dismiss sad histories and advices about what life must be. This really will not help me.

Wow 20 contracts in 4 years that's impressive, and I thought Suity was crap at contracting.

[jacapaladium]

Indeed. OP, your job is to work for the client while they need you. When they don't you are done.

There is something named CONTRACT where serious people no matter if you are the client, the service provider or the agency must follow. I've 4 years as contractor and in mostly case my contracts used to be short. So I signed already at least 20 contracts. The usual is not as you say.

So far I am used to work with serious people. In 2 others circumstances where the client decided to cancel the project or something like this...I was paid. I think that there is a lot of people here that have sad histories to tell regarding previous experiences. I am sorry to see so much people 100% passive and conformed with circumstances with this dialog of "life is life".

As I told..I am just trying to understand my contract and I expect to see experienced people here give opinion about the contract that I signed. I don't wanna be rude, but I dismiss sad histories and advices about what life must be. This really will not help me.

[jacapaladium]

The notice period refers to your notice period - i.e. after the first week you would need to give them 28 days notice.

No notice period for the client is not unusual - my contract which uses a standard IR35 friendly contract template also has that clause.

That's life unfortunately. Time to move on to the next opportunity.

Nope...

NOTICE PERIOD (CLAUSE 9.3): Agency shall give the Service Provider 28 days’ notice of termination

It's a bilateral clause.

[mudskipper]

The notice period refers to your notice period - i.e. after the first week you would need to give them 28 days notice.

No notice period for the client is not unusual - my contract which uses a standard IR35 friendly contract template also has that clause.

That's life unfortunately. Time to move on to the next opportunity.

[northernladuk]

Your job?

Indeed. OP, your job is to work for the client while they need you. When they don't you are done.

[jacapaladium]

Your job?

Yep...my assign

[Paddy]

Cancelled projects are just part of contracting.

I have had projects cancelled while driving to client co on the first day, I have even had a project cancelled on a Friday when I had booked and paid for flights on a Monday Morning.

On the other side, I have flown to a client's offshore bank site, sat down and started working with no contract, the contract was drawn up and signed a week later.