Reply to: Communist Corbyn

[stek]

I am an Englishman but having grown-up during the '70s.....

Me too, 50/50 Labour/Tory, Ted Heath and power cuts, the three day week, then the 80's even worse...

[TwoWolves]

Unfortunately it really does come down to the fact the Tories are less carp that Labour. I don't think what the Tories are doing is good but rather the slow decline for now in hope someone decent appears on the scene to turn things around

I think this comment captures the hopes of the country right now. We really are in the historic "pray for a good king" territory while we tread water.

[jimjamuk]

Unfortunately it really does come down to the fact the Tories are less carp that Labour. I don't think what the Tories are doing is good but rather the slow decline for now in hope someone decent appears on the scene to turn things around

[saptastic]

Most of the Conservative MPs are remainers, they are simply after the Brexit voters which is probably why they are making such a mess of the negotiations to date. Nevertheless, if Britain remains in the EU Corbyn's proposals would breach their rules so make up your mind about where you stand instead of sniping snide insinuations.

I am an Englishman but having grown-up during the '70s I've seen the Corbyn movie before and it doesn't end well. I want all the good things you want for Britain but I can see when politicians are selling me lies and half-truths. Currently, nobody is offering viable solutions as far as I can see.

Agreed.
The b word exit cant be judged for 5/10 years.
May is uninspiring spin and the worst election campaign in history etc etc - but JC is a whole new dangerous end game.

[TwoWolves]

I wonder if the Tories realise that we live in a globalised economy and that is why they want to leave the world's largest trading block? BTW, are you American?

Most of the Conservative MPs are remainers, they are simply after the Brexit voters which is probably why they are making such a mess of the negotiations to date. Nevertheless, if Britain remains in the EU Corbyn's proposals would breach their rules so make up your mind about where you stand instead of sniping snide insinuations.

I am an Englishman but having grown-up during the '70s I've seen the Corbyn movie before and it doesn't end well. I want all the good things you want for Britain but I can see when politicians are selling me lies and half-truths. Currently, nobody is offering viable solutions as far as I can see.

[WTFH]

No, not betraying his country, just compared to Kim Philby.

[WTFH]

That was Neil asking an unanswerable question. There is no accusation that CornBin "betrayed his country", it's a question of his judgement in being associated with a foreign diplomat and failing to explain why. Let's face it, he was in no position to harm anything 30 years ago, but now he is, potentially, so it's right to question his motives and beliefs.

And nobody, let alone Baker, would answer a stupid question along the lines of "Have you stopped beating your wife" just to satisfy Neil's attempt to be the people's champion of truth and reason. He didn't lie, he simply refused to be bullied. Not sure that's a bad thing personally.

Tory MP Ben Bradley said "Corbyn sold British secrets to communist spies".


Selling secrets to spies is betraying your country.
It wasn't "associated with a foreign diplomat" it was "sold British secrets to communist spies"
There's a bit of a difference. Can you spot it?

[minestrone]

He was a 40 years old 30 years ago.

He's a moron, was then, still is now.

[stek]

That was Neil asking an unanswerable question. There is no accusation that CornBin "betrayed his country", it's a question of his judgement in being associated with a foreign diplomat and failing to explain why. Let's face it, he was in no position to harm anything 30 years ago, but now he is, potentially, so it's right to question his motives and beliefs.

And nobody, let alone Baker, would answer a stupid question along the lines of "Have you stopped beating your wife" just to satisfy Neil's attempt to be the people's champion of truth and reason. He didn't lie, he simply refused to be bullied. Not sure that's a bad thing personally.

Seems to me Corbyn 30 years ago is a different animal than current Corbyn. There's no doubt in my mind he did a lot of stupid things when younger, IRA, etc, but I suspect he was just guilty of idealism. I certainly was when I joined CND and the CPGB as a 17 year old.

Is it fair to judge ones current self against one's former one? I think it was GK Chesterton who once said 'The folly of men's youth is by retrospect glorious compared by Eddie Waring to that of our old age'.

[darmstadt]

That was Neil asking an unanswerable question. There is no accusation that CornBin "betrayed his country", it's a question of his judgement in being associated with a foreign diplomat and failing to explain why. Let's face it, he was in no position to harm anything 30 years ago, but now he is, potentially, so it's right to question his motives and beliefs.

Well there is the fact that official records show that he was in Derbyshire on the day that it was meant to have happened. Why don't the press ask Boris about his relationship with Mifsud or the other dubious characters he's quite often seen with, or those that Farage consorts with?

[malvolio]

Isn't that basically the same as Steve Baker said to Andrew Neill the other day when he was asked?

But he's Steve Baker, so it's perfectly OK for him to be a scary lying bastard, cause he's in the government.

That was Neil asking an unanswerable question. There is no accusation that CornBin "betrayed his country", it's a question of his judgement in being associated with a foreign diplomat and failing to explain why. Let's face it, he was in no position to harm anything 30 years ago, but now he is, potentially, so it's right to question his motives and beliefs.

And nobody, let alone Baker, would answer a stupid question along the lines of "Have you stopped beating your wife" just to satisfy Neil's attempt to be the people's champion of truth and reason. He didn't lie, he simply refused to be bullied. Not sure that's a bad thing personally.

[WTFH]

I think his recent video was very revealing of the true character of the man. Basically " I won't bother to respond to, refute or disprove your allegations. I will however threaten to close down your ability to make such allegations or any other allegations that someone in power may disagree with".

Scary little bastard, isn't he, all things considered...

Isn't that basically the same as Steve Baker said to Andrew Neill the other day when he was asked?

But he's Steve Baker, so it's perfectly OK for him to be a scary lying bastard, cause he's in the government.

[malvolio]

I think his recent video was very revealing of the true character of the man. Basically " I won't bother to respond to, refute or disprove your allegations. I will however threaten to close down your ability to make such allegations or any other allegations that someone in power may disagree with".

Scary little bastard, isn't he, all things considered...

[OwlHoot]

I respect Corbyn for his altruism, ..

Any fool can be altruistic.

What counts is whether their supposed solutions have any practical chance of working, in anything like the way they claim, and Agent Cob's don't.

[vetran]

I wonder if now there is enough wealth in the World to ensure nobody is poor or living in poverty.

I suspect there is but we are all guilty of not giving back. I respect Corbyn for his altruism, he is poles apart from most politicians especially the likes of Trump, BoJo and Farage.

it was Czech's not poles!

Unfortunately there is enough money but not enough nice people. Jezza is not one of them!