Reply to: Who puts these people in charge?

[Dark Black]

My MB already does (as did my Tesla). Combined with Distronic Plus it takes a lot of the fun out of driving, as unlike the Tesla the system is pretty reliable.

FTFY

[darmstadt]

This is a real PITA on classic vehicles such as my motorbike. At 30mph, the speedo needle sweeps between 20 and 40 so the actual speed is anyone's guess. I rely on the prevailing traffic all sticking to the limit as my speed limiter.

I got stopped for speeding once on a motorbike in a 30 zone (a full kitted out Maico motocrosser as it were) and never noticed the police behind me (although all the people in village watched me being followed) until I turned off into a side road. I pulled up, nonchalantly leaned the bike against a lamp post as it had no side stand. Upon being told I was doing around 40mph I pointed out that I couldn't have been and showed him the speedometer, mounted down below on the forks, which was stuck at 30. Even though the bike wasn't road legal, i.e. offroad tyres, half a number plate, no front lights, etc. all I got was a letter telling me off and a clip around the ear. The good old days of policing...

[Grasser73]

This is a real PITA on classic vehicles such as my motorbike. At 30mph, the speedo needle sweeps between 20 and 40 so the actual speed is anyone's guess. I rely on the prevailing traffic all sticking to the limit as my speed limiter.

[woohoo]

I notice that a leading traffic lawyer has made exactly the same points as me (albeit in a less ranty way).

Penalising motorists for going 1mph over the limit is 'legally unenforceable', Mr Loophole says*

I rest my case M'lord.

Good touch, quoting the rising violent crime stat in his area.

[xoggoth]

I notice that a leading traffic lawyer has made exactly the same points as me (albeit in a less ranty way).

Penalising motorists for going 1mph over the limit is 'legally unenforceable', Mr Loophole says 

I rest my case M'lord.

[WTFH]

Citation needed.

Criminals don't need to give citations. They think that only certain laws should apply to them.

I'm surprised that they aren't complaining about the politicians and police who insist that we drive on the left in the UK. They should fight back and drive on the right.
Oh yeah, a lot of these numpties already do - outside/middle lane hoggers who think roads should be flat and straight but can't find their indicators.

[WTFH]

Public transport is pathetic in country areas too. Buses in my village only go every two hours in the day and only to two towns. To get to another town I want to be this morning, less than 15 miles away, would take half the morning.

Every two hours? Lucky you!

One in the morning which comes back in the afternoon.

[xoggoth]

Public transport is pathetic in country areas too. Buses in my village only go every two hours in the day and only to two towns. To get to another town I want to be this morning, less than 15 miles away, would take half the morning.

[woohoo]

That quickly becomes very annoying.

Borrowed my dad's car the other week and as he's been done for speeding recently he's now set his sat nav to warn whenever the driver goes over the current speed limit. It's more likely to induce road rage.

If you're so worried about sticking to or below the limit catch the bus or train.

It's easier said than done though. The misses tried getting the metrolink into Manchester for work.

I had to drive her to the metrolink because the buses are every hour and takes about 40 mins. Then, quite often I would get a call asking for me to pick her up from random places on the line because for whatever reason the metro could not make it to its destination.

So for many people, cars are the only way to get to work.

[darmstadt]

Until then, some cars already allow you to set a speed limit, or to sound a warning at a certain speed....

I think most modern cars already do, my last 3 certainly have. I set it twice a year, during winter to a maximum of 240 as that is what my winter tyres are rated for and then when I go back to normal, set it back to unlimited

[Hobosapien]

Until then, some cars already allow you to set a speed limit, or to sound a warning at a certain speed....

That quickly becomes very annoying.

Borrowed my dad's car the other week and as he's been done for speeding recently he's now set his sat nav to warn whenever the driver goes over the current speed limit. It's more likely to induce road rage.

If you're so worried about sticking to or below the limit catch the bus or train.

[northernladyuk]

the issue is the roads should be policed according to real scientific evidence, and not lefty social manipulation prejudices, unsafe driving needs more attention and aderance to an arbitary speed limit assigned by politicians (and not advanced drivers who would have a proper clue of what is optimum) is a waste, the issue is policing resources could be better used for better net benefit to society including road death reduction.

the issue is far too much persecution of drivers, and far too little peer review of the road designers, and speed limit setters, etc

the issue is the simplistic speed kills nonsense, and the obvious fashions in the public sector driven by virtue signalling

as I say abd.org.uk are mostly correct on all of this, have a read of their web site

driving at a speed below the posted limit can be dangerous in very bad weather, and thats when most accidents happen, but nobody ever gets done for speeding during such times as the traffic police are rushing from one accident to another and the automatic cameras will not trigger as what is dangerous is below the posted limit

as I said before we live in a country prosecuting people for pulling through a red light to allow an ambulance on blue lights behind them through, when it is perfectly safe to do so, we have allowed mad men to set the rules

Thank you. But I was addressing the original point made.

[NotAllThere]

Wasn't you then: BBC News - Switzerland millionaire hit by record speed fine

No. Nice you think I'm a millionaire.

So you are a serial offender then.

Tsk tsk!!

The lower fines were me being a little too heavy on the accelerator. The higher one was missing a speed limit. In both cases - my fault. It's my responsibility as a driver to abide by the rules of the road, no matter how "unfair" or how much the authorities are out to persecute road users.

After the level you get 120CHF fines, the next is 250CHF for first offence, and it goes in "the book". After that it gets quite serious.

...an arbitary speed limit assigned by politicians (and not advanced drivers who would have a proper clue of what is optimum)

What makes you think the speed limits are arbitary or assigned by politicians? Hint: in the vast majority of cases, they're not. But you're obviously a more qualified expert, so you know better.

[CoolCat]

There is going to be a cut off, whether it's 70 mph, 77 mph, or 80 mph, and if you go 1 mph over the cut off, you'll be nicked. So you either rely exactly on your speedometer or leave a bit of a margin. What's the issue?

the issue is the roads should be policed according to real scientific evidence, and not lefty social manipulation prejudices, unsafe driving needs more attention and aderance to an arbitary speed limit assigned by politicians (and not advanced drivers who would have a proper clue of what is optimum) is a waste, the issue is policing resources could be better used for better net benefit to society including road death reduction.

the issue is far too much persecution of drivers, and far too little peer review of the road designers, and speed limit setters, etc

the issue is the simplistic speed kills nonsense, and the obvious fashions in the public sector driven by virtue signalling

as I say abd.org.uk are mostly correct on all of this, have a read of their web site

driving at a speed below the posted limit can be dangerous in very bad weather, and thats when most accidents happen, but nobody ever gets done for speeding during such times as the traffic police are rushing from one accident to another and the automatic cameras will not trigger as what is dangerous is below the posted limit

as I said before we live in a country prosecuting people for pulling through a red light to allow an ambulance on blue lights behind them through, when it is perfectly safe to do so, we have allowed mad men to set the rules

[northernladyuk]

Britain's Road policing chief has called for motorists to be penalised for going 1mph over the speed limit.

Motorists should be penalised for going just 1mph over the speed limit, Britain’s road policing chief says

1 mph over 70 mph is 1.4%. Does it not occur to him that speedometers, and probably speed cameras, may not be that accurate? This could result in huge numbers of motorists who intended to keep to the speed limit being penalised and, possibly, huge numbers who actually did being penalised as well! Another problem is that most speed indicators are dial types and a quick glance might not be enough to ensure you are observing the limit. Drivers nervously checking their speedometers constantly are likely to have more accidents, not less.

Maybe he thinks we should spend umpteen billions upgrading all cars and speed cameras to the required visibility and accuracy and millions more every year doing checks on them! He's probably a Corybn supporter. Magic money tree.

There is going to be a cut off, whether it's 70 mph, 77 mph, or 80 mph, and if you go 1 mph over the cut off, you'll be nicked. So you either rely exactly on your speedometer or leave a bit of a margin. What's the issue?