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Originally posted by d000hg View PostWell I'm equally glad I don't have people like you as developers weighing down my team, so consider the compliment returned.
It's not an unpleasant role, just unfamiliar not to have a tangible product "I made this". When I did it before to a lesser degree with the same client, I was lead dev/architect/technical PM so if people were not performing (or I didn't tell them what to do properly) I had the last resort to jump in and get my hands dirty but it was a very small team. Probably that is my preferred position - doing some coding, designing larger parts of the system and delegating implementation to a few people while still being in touch with the "bare metal". But then I'm someone who actually enjoys coding... I'm one of the nerds who'd rather be locked away in a basement
Originally posted by d000hg View PostI didn't realise I was going to be the PM when hired!
As an aside, clearly you consider yourself bullet proof when it comes to IR35?
Is that because you don't think HMRC will be able to find you in your basement
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostWhen you say, "I made this", what do you normally make?
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostWell I'm equally glad I don't have people like you as developers weighing down my team, so consider the compliment returned.
It's not an unpleasant role, just unfamiliar not to have a tangible product "I made this". When I did it before to a lesser degree with the same client, I was lead dev/architect/technical PM so if people were not performing (or I didn't tell them what to do properly) I had the last resort to jump in and get my hands dirty but it was a very small team. Probably that is my preferred position - doing some coding, designing larger parts of the system and delegating implementation to a few people while still being in touch with the "bare metal". But then I'm someone who actually enjoys coding... I'm one of the nerds who'd rather be locked away in a basement
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Well I'm equally glad I don't have people like you as developers weighing down my team, so consider the compliment returned.
It's not an unpleasant role, just unfamiliar not to have a tangible product "I made this". When I did it before to a lesser degree with the same client, I was lead dev/architect/technical PM so if people were not performing (or I didn't tell them what to do properly) I had the last resort to jump in and get my hands dirty but it was a very small team. Probably that is my preferred position - doing some coding, designing larger parts of the system and delegating implementation to a few people while still being in touch with the "bare metal". But then I'm someone who actually enjoys coding... I'm one of the nerds who'd rather be locked away in a basement
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostIf you cannot think of anything worse than having "a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt" as PM I'll stand my my claim you have a very weak imagination, thanks for helping me out
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostIf you cannot think of anything worse than having "a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt" as PM I'll stand my my claim you have a very weak imagination, thanks for helping me out
Just stating what I have observed, nothing more nothing less, no "imagination" weak or otherwise required .
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Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostNot really, its because I find you a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt actually
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostI never said I thought I could do it I didn't realise I was going to be the PM when hired!
That's because you're a narrowly-focused coder with a very limited imagination.
I have managed teams of up to 8 developers / testers before, on a few occasions.
My way of keeping in touch with the tech would be set the developers up with the concept / solution / POC or whatever and let them do the gutsy, repetitive button pushing part of it.
I would never take a role that didn't involve such activities as it would mean I would lose my SME status.
Originally posted by d000hg View PostI never said I thought I could do it
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostNo disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.
Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostI'll take it further and suggest that I can think of nothing worse than the OP being my Project Manager.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostNo disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostNo disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.
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Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostMust work though, I earn a very good living at being rubbish, if that is actually the case.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostLike this chap you mean?
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No disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.
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