The accidental PM

[LondonManc]

Must work though, I earn a very good living at being rubbish, if that is actually the case.

I thought you'd have been more proud at having made him sit in a corner, dribbling.

[northernladyuk]

No disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.

Except PC falling into a non-PC position and thinking he can do it.

[MrMarkyMark]

No disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.

I'll take it further and suggest that I can think of nothing worse than the OP being my Project Manager.

[d000hg]

No disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.

I never said I thought I could do it I didn't realise I was going to be the PM when hired!

I'll take it further and suggest that I can think of nothing worse than the OP being my Project Manager.

That's because you're a narrowly-focused coder with a very limited imagination.

[MrMarkyMark]

I never said I thought I could do it I didn't realise I was going to be the PM when hired!

That's because you're a narrowly-focused coder with a very limited imagination.

Not really, its because I find you a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt actually

I have managed teams of up to 8 developers / testers before, on a few occasions.

My way of keeping in touch with the tech would be set the developers up with the concept / solution / POC or whatever and let them do the gutsy, repetitive button pushing part of it.
I would never take a role that didn't involve such activities as it would mean I would lose my SME status.

I never said I thought I could do it

Looks like they have chosen completely the wrong person, then.

[d000hg]

Not really, its because I find you a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt actually

If you cannot think of anything worse than having "a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt" as PM I'll stand my my claim you have a very weak imagination, thanks for helping me out

[MrMarkyMark]

If you cannot think of anything worse than having "a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt" as PM I'll stand my my claim you have a very weak imagination, thanks for helping me out

Just stating what I have observed, nothing more nothing less, no "imagination" weak or otherwise required .

[LondonManc]

If you cannot think of anything worse than having "a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt" as PM I'll stand my my claim you have a very weak imagination, thanks for helping me out

He just wants to see you sat in a corner, dribbling. He's a strange one, nqat, but at least he's got clear targets.

[d000hg]

Well I'm equally glad I don't have people like you as developers weighing down my team, so consider the compliment returned.

It's not an unpleasant role, just unfamiliar not to have a tangible product "I made this". When I did it before to a lesser degree with the same client, I was lead dev/architect/technical PM so if people were not performing (or I didn't tell them what to do properly) I had the last resort to jump in and get my hands dirty but it was a very small team. Probably that is my preferred position - doing some coding, designing larger parts of the system and delegating implementation to a few people while still being in touch with the "bare metal". But then I'm someone who actually enjoys coding... I'm one of the nerds who'd rather be locked away in a basement

[LondonManc]

Well I'm equally glad I don't have people like you as developers weighing down my team, so consider the compliment returned.

It's not an unpleasant role, just unfamiliar not to have a tangible product "I made this". When I did it before to a lesser degree with the same client, I was lead dev/architect/technical PM so if people were not performing (or I didn't tell them what to do properly) I had the last resort to jump in and get my hands dirty but it was a very small team. Probably that is my preferred position - doing some coding, designing larger parts of the system and delegating implementation to a few people while still being in touch with the "bare metal". But then I'm someone who actually enjoys coding... I'm one of the nerds who'd rather be locked away in a basement

When you say, "I made this", what do you normally make?