Reply to: Aspiring heart surgeon spared jail

[SueEllen]

TBH SE I thought better of you. How many cliches and stereotypes in that sentence?

I initially put quotes all over it but decided to remove them as it made my comment more inflammatory.

For the record the Duty Solicitor told me that the BiB do not recognise male abuse as 'it does not happen'.

Guess there are no men in a domestic relationship with another man in that police area....

Given the thread topic that's just BS. Also for the record it would have been very easy to 'defend' myself (but my generation don't hit girls), with the minimum force,

If you defended yourself she wouldn't have needed to give a statement to get you charged.

but it was her with phone in hand that dialled 999 and they arrested me even though she had the knife in her hand, and I had blood running down my face (from a previous punch to the nose). Whilst I was i the nick they spent 3 hours trying to get her to press charges.

They need to look like they are doing something after all the cases they ignored and the woman was murdered by her ex.

[BrilloPad]

Apart form the from the fact that I've only ever replied to 'political' comment from others (who's crystal ball is so superior to mine) how is criminal assault and lack of response from the plod 'politically crackpot'?

And not to put too finer point on it I'm not the only one, as this thread proves. Men have died at the hand of their 'other half'.

Nonsense! Complete bollox!

And I know that because you are a man.

[NigelJK]

Apart form the from the fact that I've only ever replied to 'political' comment from others (who's crystal ball is so superior to mine) how is criminal assault and lack of response from the plod 'politically crackpot'?

And not to put too finer point on it I'm not the only one, as this thread proves. Men have died at the hand of their 'other half'.

[northernladyuk]

TBH SE I thought better of you. How many cliches and stereotypes in that sentence?



See what I mean?

For the record the Duty Solicitor told me that the BiB do not recognise male abuse as 'it does not happen'. Given the thread topic that's just BS. Also for the record it would have been very easy to 'defend' myself (but my generation don't hit girls), with the minimum force, but it was her with phone in hand that dialled 999 and they arrested me even though she had the knife in her hand, and I had blood running down my face (from a previous punch to the nose). Whilst I was i the nick they spent 3 hours trying to get her to press charges.

You could easily be lying. It would be very convenient for your crackpot political views.

[NigelJK]

If men are too embarrassed to come forward and say that their physically weaker and frequently smaller female partner is abusing them then no figures can be collated.

TBH SE I thought better of you. How many cliches and stereotypes in that sentence?

Do we have your solemn word on that as an alt-right post-truth nutjob?

See what I mean?

For the record the Duty Solicitor told me that the BiB do not recognise male abuse as 'it does not happen'. Given the thread topic that's just BS. Also for the record it would have been very easy to 'defend' myself (but my generation don't hit girls), with the minimum force, but it was her with phone in hand that dialled 999 and they arrested me even though she had the knife in her hand, and I had blood running down my face (from a previous punch to the nose). Whilst I was i the nick they spent 3 hours trying to get her to press charges.

[northernladyuk]

It is indeed very odd that there's enormous emphasis on correcting domestic violence, but only if it's inflicted on women. I was attacked by a previous 'girlfriend' with a knife (after booze) and it's me that spent a night in the cooler, with the duty solicitor telling me to 'no comment' as the police would prosecute otherwise.

Do we have your solemn word on that as an alt-right post-truth nutjob?

[SueEllen]

It is indeed very odd that there's enormous emphasis on correcting domestic violence, but only if it's inflicted on women.

If men are too embarrassed to come forward and say that their physically weaker and frequently smaller female partner is abusing them then no figures can be collated.

I was attacked by a previous 'girlfriend' with a knife (after booze) and it's me that spent a night in the cooler, with the duty solicitor telling me to 'no comment' as the police would prosecute otherwise.

More likely the duty solicitor knew what the current bugbear of the officers at that station was, so knew if you opened your mouth they would charge you even if the CPS dropped it later.

[NigelJK]

It is indeed very odd that there's enormous emphasis on correcting domestic violence, but only if it's inflicted on women. I was attacked by a previous 'girlfriend' with a knife (after booze) and it's me that spent a night in the cooler, with the duty solicitor telling me to 'no comment' as the police would prosecute otherwise.

[WTFH]

assuming there is little chance of reoffending and they are getting help I believe the odds of them not reoffending are higher with support rather than jail.

This is the opinion of the CPS, parole service & Judiciary as well.

This was domestic violence not random violence so it may be possible to fix.

Ah, time to add in all your caveats.

[vetran]

Just want to check that you are saying that a knife attacker, regardless of colour, creed or class, who had a clean record, was remorseful and had gone into rehab - that they don’t need to go to jail.

assuming there is little chance of reoffending and they are getting help I believe the odds of them not reoffending are higher with support rather than jail.

This is the opinion of the CPS, parole service & Judiciary as well.

This was domestic violence not random violence so it may be possible to fix.

[ladymuck]

There is a whole lot of deliberation to be had around intent (which is the difference between murder and manslaughter, for instance) and mitigating circumstances

[BrilloPad]

Whenever I tell a woman how Mrs BP tried to stab me they always ask "what did you do to upset her".

Men can just never win......

[BrilloPad]

To be fair I do know a woman (local barmaid) who stabbed the father of her child - he was a ****** and deserved it but....

anyway she did not go to jail - not actually sure what did happen will find and out and get back to you!

Diver's cousin(a lady) was beaten up by her husband one Saturday night while he was drunk. She was in hospital for 2 days - did not report it to the police or make any other protest.

The next Saturday night he fell asleep drunk on the sofa. She got a pancake pan(the incredibly heavy ones). And hit him over the head.

After he got out of hospital 3 weeks later their relationship was fine.

Way to go!

[BrilloPad]

Just want to check that you are saying that a knife attacker, regardless of colour, creed or class, who had a clean record, was remorseful and had gone into rehab - that they don’t need to go to jail.

That is what the Lawyer said. However, please feel free to shoot the messenger. Or at least stab him in the leg.

[original PM]

Just want to check that you are saying that a knife attacker, regardless of colour, creed or class, who had a clean record, was remorseful and had gone into rehab - that they don’t need to go to jail.

To be fair I do know a woman (local barmaid) who stabbed the father of her child - he was a ****** and deserved it but....

anyway she did not go to jail - not actually sure what did happen will find and out and get back to you!