Reply to: Unemployment rate falls to 4.3% as wages stagnate

[vetran]

Amazing isn't it? Soon there'll be no unemployed working able people left in the UK.

What's really going on here? Tory's doing a first class job managing the economy? Cause the economy or productivity levels don't appear to be improving, in fact the reverse.

Or an ever increasing ageing population with fewer employable people messing up the stats?


source: Unemployment rate falls to 4.3% as wages stagnate - BBC News

we got rid of all our crap workers to Germany?

[excon]

So presumably you take Breitbart and their ilk seriously then Or do you just look at the pictures in the Daily Mail?

I don't take anyone seriously who's avatar says "It's not racist to deport the TORIES" does that help?

[tomtomagain]

If your eyes were a reliable indicator of the state of the economy you'd probably have a much more interesting job than IT contracting

I'm not an IT Contractor

Jus' saying that in the area I live it feels like the economy is firing on all cylinders. From talking with friends and family throughout the UK the story is much the same. Maybe you just live in a deprived area?

It certainly does not feel like we are on a precipice about to drop off a BREXIT-induced cliff onto the sharp, jaggedy rocks of depression.

So maybe, just maybe, this whole BREXIT malarky won't have much economic effect at all.

Maybe politicians and politics everywhere don't actually have that great effect on peoples lives and maybe its individual companies and consumers across the world who each make individual decisions based on their own best interests that drive things forward and upward.

Ask me again in 12 months time. We should be at "Peak Uncertainty" by then.

[darmstadt]

My reading list includes:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk
https://www.thecanary.co
LabourList | Labour Party News and Comment

Mostly for comedic value, but my mind is most certainly not of the "closed clam" variety of the average SJW poster.

So presumably you take Breitbart and their ilk seriously then Or do you just look at the pictures in the Daily Mail?

[excon]

Well that says a lot for your reading habits

My reading list includes:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk
https://www.thecanary.co
LabourList | Labour Party News and Comment

Mostly for comedic value, but my mind is most certainly not of the "closed clam" variety of the average SJW poster.

[excon]

Far-right Breitbart 'deliberately twisted' German New Year's Eve mob story into 'fake news' | The Independent

I would rather have a factual account.

OK then, how about the Guardian or is that horribly biased and peddling fake news?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lts-in-cologne

A ferocious debate has erupted in Germany over the handling of mass sexual assaults and muggings carried out by groups of young males during New Year’s Eve celebrations in Cologne, amid accusations of a police and media cover-up over fears of whipping up anti-foreigner sentiment in the wake of the migrant crisis.

About 100 complaints have now been made to police, two-thirds of which are linked to sexual assault, including two rapes. According to police and witnesses, the perpetrators were of north African and Arab appearance, although neither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

[original PM]

Making alliances and trade agreements is looking outwards. Destroying them, as Brexit is doing, is inward.

Not if by making an agreement with one you are then restricted with making agreements with others.

[scooterscot]

We in the UK are positioning ourselves to look outwards to the rest of the world and beyond as the human race starts to populate the rest of the solar system.

Making alliances and trade agreements is looking outwards. Destroying them, as Brexit is doing, is inward.

[The_Equalizer]

When Brexiteers talk about an outward looking Britain, what they mean is Empire 2.0, i.e. one sided trade deals where the UK shoves the products and services it wants to sell down the throats of third countries without making any compromises, which in effect is an insular and inward looking Britain that won't be able to conclude any worthwhile trade deals and will probably be thrown off the UN security council once the EU withdraws its support.

You have, of course, put the farm on this.

[BlasterBates]

How many years until we have the first one that is actually beneficial to UK businesses and the population?

When Brexiteers talk about an outward looking Britain, what they mean is Empire 2.0, i.e. one sided trade deals where the UK shoves the products and services it wants to sell down the throats of third countries without making any compromises, which in effect is an insular and inward looking Britain that won't be able to conclude any worthwhile trade deals and will probably be thrown off the UN security council once the EU withdraws its support.

[WTFH]

Not really what I am saying is we will be free to do so and therefore over a number of years we will.

How many years until we have the first one that is actually beneficial to UK businesses and the population?

[BlasterBates]

Not really what I am saying is we will be free to do so and therefore over a number of years we will.

Some people's problem is they have to have a defined timeline for everything without ever really understanding that the future is not set and will change.

We in the UK are positioning ourselves to look outwards to the rest of the world and beyond as the human race starts to populate the rest of the solar system.

Not looking inwardly at what is increasingly becoming a small minded Europe only experiment designed to keep power in the hands of the few and hunger in the bellies of many.

Both Germany and France export significantly more than the UK to the rest of the world. The EU is currently in negotiations with China, Japan, Australia and New Zealand who have all said that they prioritise their deals with the EU over the UK, hardly inward looking.

The UK will shrivel once it has left the EU, waiting for countries to conclude their deals with the EU.

[SueEllen]

The way the bbc report is clever and very subtle. If there is a story that doesn't fit it's agenda or world view e.g. the New Year rapes in Cologne they will sit on it for a few days and then report it for a few hours then pull the article so they can't be accused of "bias".

The fact that the bbc are institutionally biased towards the liberal left is clear for all to see and freely stated by its own employees.

Other news organisations do similar like the Daily Mail.

Til this day people are shocked they actually took the national lead on investigating a story about institutional racism.

[original PM]

You're intimating that when the UK leaves the EU it will suddenly have a load of new trade deals with the rest of the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. The UK will struggle simply to get the trade deals it already had as a member of the EU.

Just check out Switzerland, is that saying "hello" to the rest of the world.

Absolutely not.....it spends it's entire life grovelling to the EU or being kicked around by the US, because they can. It's even agreed to "Schengen"

This is exactly where the UK is heading as a rather pathetic grovelling appendage to the EU, if it's lucky and they pay their bar bill. The icing on the cake will be a Corbyn led UK government dismantling the military.

Not really what I am saying is we will be free to do so and therefore over a number of years we will.

Some people's problem is they have to have a defined timeline for everything without ever really understanding that the future is not set and will change.

We in the UK are positioning ourselves to look outwards to the rest of the world and beyond as the human race starts to populate the rest of the solar system.

Not looking inwardly at what is increasingly becoming a small minded Europe only experiment designed to keep power in the hands of the few and hunger in the bellies of many.

[BlasterBates]

Indeed - with the exception of what may happen when we do leave the EEC the only other major difference we will see is that we no longer have to care what the politicians in Brussels say.

And the impact of leaving the EEC (or whatever the current name for the trade deals etc are) is still an unknown.

I was asking myself last night if I really considered myself to be a citizen of Europe or a citizen of the UK and then I realised - I am native to the UK and a citizen of the world.

And when you look at it like that trying to belong to a club which only includes a small proportion of the countries of the world - and when you look to leave that club you find they act like a bunch of spoilt ten year olds - you realise how much of a stupid thing it is.

So goodbye europe hello world really.

You're intimating that when the UK leaves the EU it will suddenly have a load of new trade deals with the rest of the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. The UK will struggle simply to get the trade deals it already had as a member of the EU.

Just check out Switzerland, is that saying "hello" to the rest of the world.

Absolutely not.....it spends it's entire life grovelling to the EU or being kicked around by the US, because they can. It's even agreed to "Schengen"

This is exactly where the UK is heading as a rather pathetic grovelling appendage to the EU, if it's lucky and they pay their bar bill. The icing on the cake will be a Corbyn led UK government dismantling the military.