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Previously on "This will probably not end well."

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  • DaveB
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    And the aftermath

    Times distorted Muslim foster case, regulator finds - BBC News

    The press regulator has ruled the Times "distorted" its coverage of a five-year-old Christian girl who was placed with Muslim foster carers.
    The newspaper ran three front-page stories in August 2017 after the girl was removed from her mother's care by Tower Hamlets council in east London.
    It said foster carers stopped her eating bacon, confused her by speaking Arabic, and removed a crucifix.
    A Times executive acknowledged the story caused "enormous offence".

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    But hey nobody is allowed to talk about it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...-defends-story
    Sure, talk about it, but don't hide from the bits that challenge your beliefs.
    You know, like the part where the story claimed the Muslim family didn't speak English, which in some people's eyes was a disgrace (whether true or not), but when the child is then sent to live with their grandmother (who doesn't speak English) and who takes the child out of the UK, well that's no issue at all.

    Your double standards are incredible... just the norm for you.

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  • original PM
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    But hey nobody is allowed to talk about it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...-defends-story

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  • WTFH
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    This will probably not end well.

    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    The Daily Mail and how they originally reported the story, picture on left and picture on right shows how they followed it up. Spot the difference?
    Yes, they and their readers like to have the hatred ramped up to 11.

    BTW, the original picture is a stock photo from Gettyimages which you'll find tagged with happy family Dubai.

    http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/search/...true&sort=best

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Nothing tbh
    Then why did you post:

    Sapnara is a practising Muslim.

    Read into that what you will.
    What were you hinting at?

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    What do you read into it?

    I read that a judge did their job and delivered a judgement in the best interests of the child, based on knowing the full facts of the case and not just a few headlines.
    Nothing tbh

    As I said earlier in the post this is just a one off which got picked up by the media.

    As long as the child is okay that's all that really matters.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Sapnara is a practising Muslim.

    Read into that what you will.
    What do you read into it?

    I read that a judge did their job and delivered a judgement in the best interests of the child, based on knowing the full facts of the case and not just a few headlines.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    As you rightly say average white bread English Christian.
    What is a white bread English Christian? Is it one of these:

    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-cont...s-20170830.pdf

    The actual court order.

    Key points -

    The child's maternal grandmother is a non practicising muslim
    The child's mother says she is of Christian Heritage
    The child's father is AWOL
    The change of carer to the child's grandmother was not because of any problem with the current placement
    The grandmother will be taking the child back to her country of origin
    The grandmother required the documents to be interpreted.


    The only conclusion I can draw, is that the reporting of the case was extremely biased.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Sapnara is a practising Muslim.

    Read into that what you will.

    Some judges are practising Christians and knowing the sh*t some Christians believe are we to be afraid of their judgements as well?

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-cont...s-20170830.pdf

    The grandmother will be taking the child back to her country of origin
    The grandmother required the documents to be interpreted.

    The only conclusion I can draw, is that the reporting of the case was extremely biased.
    In the words of the OP:
    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Read into that what you will.
    I somehow suspect that the usual right wringers on here won't like this post as much as they did the ones about the foster family.

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  • mudskipper
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    https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-cont...s-20170830.pdf

    The actual court order.

    Key points -

    The child's maternal grandmother is a non practicising muslim
    The child's mother says she is of Christian Heritage
    The child's father is AWOL
    The change of carer to the child's grandmother was not because of any problem with the current placement
    The grandmother will be taking the child back to her country of origin
    The grandmother required the documents to be interpreted.


    The only conclusion I can draw, is that the reporting of the case was extremely biased.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    A few more details starting to emerge.

    'No concerns' with mixed faith foster case - BBC News



    So not quite the "Christian girl placed with Muslim family" originally reported.
    Sapnara is a practising Muslim.

    Read into that what you will.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Her parents consider themselves Christian and she has been christened.
    So given she is 5 and it is unlikely she even knows what different religions there are it is highly unlikely she had a Muslim background......

    As you rightly say average white bread English Christian.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    So not quite the "Christian girl placed with Muslim family" originally reported.
    Her parents consider themselves Christian and she has been christened.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Of course it is. But this case gives the appearance of placing the child without consideration of the child's welfare at all, but for some other yet to be disclosed reason. Nice that Tower Hamlets applied for (and were refused) and injunction preventing publication. Not just a corrupt, incompetent council, but cowardly as well (Eyes passim).
    A few more details starting to emerge.

    'No concerns' with mixed faith foster case - BBC News

    The judge, Khatun Sapnara, also disclosed in an order that the girl came from a family with a Muslim background, but were non-practising.
    So not quite the "Christian girl placed with Muslim family" originally reported.

    She added that the new arrangements were nothing to do with reports of the foster child in the press.

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