Reply to: Staff shortages pushing up wages...

[sasguru]

It may be coincidence, but I've noticed a marked increase in emails for my saved contract searches over the last month or so.

So far then Brexit is suiting me just fine, if it means less competition from overseas contractors resident in the UK.

(Nothing against them personally whatever, but I put my own needs first.)

Even if this is true, it's stage 1. Unfortunately IT (and many other service sector industries) is a non-location-specific industry:

1. Shortage of labour, wages rise
2. Companies decide to offshore faster/move jobs to cheaper countries - private sector jobs decline
3. Tax take from private sector declines, squeeze on public sector finances - public sector jobs decline

Thus does a country become poorer. Only those with exceptional skills can buck the trend.

Stage 3 seems to have escaped some public sector Brexiters notice - the same people who talk about Corbyn's magic money tree seem to think it doesn't apply to them

[northernladyuk]

Exactly this.....

Says the man who sees a valid business opportunity in a hotel that bans Jews.

[SueEllen]

I'm not sure that is entirely true. The rules of the club do say things about the rights of EU citizens who work in the UK. There was of course plenty the UK could have done to control immigration of non-EU citizens and also some significant changes that could have been made around EU citizens.

The rules are EU citizens have to be treated the same as UK citizens.

However there was nothing stopping the government consulting it's lawyers to make the restrictions make sense.

[northernladyuk]

So, if it is to control the number of people entering the country, why blame the EU for the Home Secretary failing to do their job?
It isn't the EU who decides who we can or can't let in.
It isn't the EU who decides who gets or doesn't get housing or free healthcare
The UK Home Secretary is in charge of out borders, not the EU
The UK Health Secretary is in charge of who pays what for the NHS. The EHIC doesn't give people free healthcare. In some countries you pay for it.

So, why was the EU blamed for failures of the UK government?

I'm not sure that is entirely true. The rules of the club do say things about the rights of EU citizens who work in the UK. There was of course plenty the UK could have done to control immigration of non-EU citizens and also some significant changes that could have been made around EU citizens.

[WTFH]

think this was the underlying reasons for Brexit, the competition for resources, be it Jobs / housing / healthcare etc, not a bunch of xenophobes

So, if it is to control the number of people entering the country, why blame the EU for the Home Secretary failing to do their job?
It isn't the EU who decides who we can or can't let in.
It isn't the EU who decides who gets or doesn't get housing or free healthcare
The UK Home Secretary is in charge of out borders, not the EU
The UK Health Secretary is in charge of who pays what for the NHS. The EHIC doesn't give people free healthcare. In some countries you pay for it.

So, why was the EU blamed for failures of the UK government?

[original PM]

think this was the underlying reasons for Brexit, the competition for resources, be it Jobs / housing / healthcare etc, not a bunch of xenophobes

Exactly this.....

[filthy1980]

It may be coincidence, but I've noticed a marked increase in emails for my saved contract searches over the last month or so.

So far then Brexit is suiting me just fine, if it means less competition from overseas contractors resident in the UK.

(Nothing against them personally whatever, but I put my own needs first.)

think this was the underlying reasons for Brexit, the competition for resources, be it Jobs / housing / healthcare etc, not a bunch of xenophobes

[OwlHoot]

BBC reporting today that the flow of non-UK workers coming to the uk April-June 2017 has slowed to 100k per quarter from 225k+

Need to wait until October to see if this is just a blip.

It may be coincidence, but I've noticed a marked increase in emails for my saved contract searches over the last month or so.

So far then Brexit is suiting me just fine, if it means less competition from overseas contractors resident in the UK.

(Nothing against them personally whatever, but I put my own needs first.)

[Bluenose]

BBC reporting today that the flow of non-UK workers coming to the uk April-June 2017 has slowed to 100k per quarter from 225k+

Need to wait until October to see if this is just a blip.

[SueEllen]

Pay in GBP or in real money terms?

GBP

[northernladyuk]

Staff shortages are pushing up pay, recruiters say - BBC News

Pay in GBP or in real money terms?

[_V_]

Too much money concentrated in the hands of too few leads to a lack of velocity of money.

I don't know, those hyper yachts can shift when they need too....

[Bluenose]

Too early for it to be a firm trend but lest we forget the Tier 1 and 2 Visa changes we flagged on this forum in April will be having an effect.

[SueEllen]

Me too.

Like for example The Coop.

You mean Co-op Bank? They are a bit fecked....

[original PM]

I'm a big fan of cooperatives - like john Lewis.

Me too.

Like for example The Coop.