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Previously on "Paying Cash in Hand"

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    I'm with you. Education and Health should be a preserve for the wealthy, also scrap the police, if you want protection/law and order, you should buy it yourself. Those that can't afford it should be locked up until they can.
    Remove pensions. No government support for pensions, and tax personal ones. When the military retire, they should not be given any support. Send them to the poorhouses.
    We've been living in the 20th and 21st centuries too long.
    Once all the sick and old are dead, we won't have the overpopulation problem, and then the country will be strong and rich again. We can start by selectively breeding good genes. Britain needs more blond haired, blue eyed, proper people, so we sterilise those who aren't genetically perfect, and then send them to camps where they can work for us.

    Your ideas are really spot on. I'm surprised no one has thought of them before.
    Indeed that Hitler guy had some good ideas!!

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  • pangeakiller
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    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    Your local cash in hand builder still pays more tax than Starbucks or apple.
    Very true. I did a small study for a course. Apple paid zero corporation tax in 2012 during the time of the study. They had a number of product launches that year where people went crazy stood in large lines mandating large police protection, traffic diversion and so on. The cost of police, traffic, road safety were all paid for by the taxpayers. The corporation had zero risk and just massive profit. The total of all PAYE and NI paid for the staff barely had any excess (after deducting the percentage allocated for education, health, pension, defense, benefits etc)

    I concluded by saying that perhaps companies should be asked to get a license and insurance in return for road safety and security. While they all hate the word *tax* they all love words *security and insurance*.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Has it ever occurred to you that if the NHS was privatized and people paid for their own health insurance, the state wouldn't need to worry about any of this nannying?

    (except in extreme cases, a la gin crisis of the 18th century and the Defence of the Realm act limiting beer strengths and suchlike)
    I'm with you. Education and Health should be a preserve for the wealthy, also scrap the police, if you want protection/law and order, you should buy it yourself. Those that can't afford it should be locked up until they can.
    Remove pensions. No government support for pensions, and tax personal ones. When the military retire, they should not be given any support. Send them to the poorhouses.
    We've been living in the 20th and 21st centuries too long.
    Once all the sick and old are dead, we won't have the overpopulation problem, and then the country will be strong and rich again. We can start by selectively breeding good genes. Britain needs more blond haired, blue eyed, proper people, so we sterilise those who aren't genetically perfect, and then send them to camps where they can work for us.

    Your ideas are really spot on. I'm surprised no one has thought of them before.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by Elliegirl View Post
    Paid out of what? with rising zero hours contracts, pay freezes and unstable forms of employment growing? and what happens to people with chronic illnesses?

    Nah. Clear off out of it.
    A satisfactory way would soon be found. The NHS is chronically and spectacularly inefficient, and before long especially with recent and anticipated medical advances there would be far better alternatives.

    If you don't believe me, ask sasguru!

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  • d000hg
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    Can't we just pay using a cheque? Goes into a bank account, doesn't require a card machine...

    Or online banking... very easy.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Lost It View Post
    Don't the banks take a fee for using those card machines?
    Yep.

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  • Lost It
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    Don't the banks take a fee for using those card machines?

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    So how am I supposed to pay the local brass without cash?
    cash for handjob?

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  • BrilloPad
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    So how am I supposed to pay the local brass without cash?

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  • Elliegirl
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    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Has it ever occurred to you that if the NHS was privatized and people paid for their own health insurance, the state wouldn't need to worry about any of this nannying?
    Paid out of what? with rising zero hours contracts, pay freezes and unstable forms of employment growing? and what happens to people with chronic illnesses?

    Nah. Clear off out of it.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Interesting how a government initiative to protect workers just ends up being a tax grab....
    How true. I wonder if they'll adopt the IR35 attitude to "disguised employment" (worker pays all the taxes, including employers NI?) That'll push the rates for Uber and Deliveroo into the realms of nonviable. My fiver says they won't...

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by FrontEnder View Post
    They don't (or shouldn't) for a basic bank account though.
    The money laundering rules make it very difficult to open a bank account without several forms of ID, so for anyone starting out or doing occasional small jobs, cash seems the easiest option. If it saves me the VAT, so much the better. I have no idea how much it costs to get one of those terminals to take card payments, but I bet they ain't cheap, so bollocks to the tosser who wrote this crap report, but I hope it didn't cost the taxpayer too much.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    I'd hate to live in any country with you
    FTFY

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    Strange .. the Polish workers who were somehow engaged at a recent Data Centre build were quiet open about abusing the family allowance for non existent kids back in Poland, their view was if they could get away with it then why not

    You must have a different kind of Polish builder
    His kids are at school in the UK.

    He basically bought a falling apart house did it up, and used it to get more work.

    From the looks of things he intended to stay here hence not ripping of HMRC.

    Anyway like British people not everyone who is Polish is the same.

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  • Troll
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Fecking racist. My Polish builder is so proud of living in Britain he pays the right taxes. There as my British fencer openly admitted screwing the taxman.
    Strange .. the Polish workers who were somehow engaged at a recent Data Centre build were quite open about abusing the family allowance for non existent kids back in Poland, their view was if they could get away with it then why not

    You must have a different kind of Polish builder
    Last edited by Troll; 12 July 2017, 18:19.

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