Reply to: Armed US immigration officers stationed at British airports

[eek]

It need refuelling on the westbound route because, I believe, it cannot take off fully fuelled at LCY (because of the runway length or something). Also the winds are against when going West, so it needs a fuel stop. It's an Airbus A318, business class only, and I seem to remember it was on Google street view for a while, so you could have a look round inside.

The welcome to Europe / none Schengen queue at Paris CDG last Monday wasn't much better. Thankfully I have priority and after a very brief chat skipped the entire queue (even the priority queue was 10 minutes long) to get landside to walk to my departure terminal...

[eek]

Doesn't this happen in Shannon already?

Yes and Dublin.... It's why I would fly Aer Lingus to America...

[BlasterBates]

A trade deal is a dog eat dog activity, not diplomatic

Lets face it Britain is going to get eaten alive doing its trade deals.

[Troll]

Totally ridiculous.. Allowing a foreign power to bear arms in a civilian location on British soil...

That is NOT on.

Armed British police are already present at many (all?) airports in this country - that should be good enough.

We already have French Gendarmerie /Customs Folkestone side of Chunnel - officers of which are usually armed - but can't find confirmation of what the agreement was with France about UK side officers

[sasguru]

Totally ridiculous.. Allowing a foreign power to bear arms in a civilian location on British soil...

That is NOT on.

Armed British police are already present at many (all?) airports in this country - that should be good enough.

You and your ilk voted for Brexit which is moving from being one of the 3 top dogs in Europe to becoming the de facto 51st state of the US.
So deal with it.

Unless you thought the UK would become a global player comparable in size to the US and UK?

[milanbenes]

I trust if they find themselves in a situation where they are left with no option than to draw arms, they'll be protected by immunity ?

Milan.

[Dark Black]

Totally ridiculous.. Allowing a foreign power to bear arms in a civilian location on British soil...

That is NOT on.

Armed British police are already present at many (all?) airports in this country - that should be good enough.

[Mordac]

if a flight from London to NewYork needs a refueling stop in Ireland, how the heck does it then get from Ireland to Newyork without needing another refueling stop ?

Milan.

It need refuelling on the westbound route because, I believe, it cannot take off fully fuelled at LCY (because of the runway length or something). Also the winds are against when going West, so it needs a fuel stop. It's an Airbus A318, business class only, and I seem to remember it was on Google street view for a while, so you could have a look round inside.

[milanbenes]

BA001 from London City to New York does a refuelling stop in Shannon. While the plane is being refuelled, passengers get off the plane and go through the US immigration processes and then get back on again

if a flight from London to NewYork needs a refueling stop in Ireland, how the heck does it then get from Ireland to Newyork without needing another refueling stop ?

Milan.

[SimonMac]

Armed US immigration officers stationed at British airports under radical new plan that could drive up air fares and queues

British holidaymakers visiting the US could be hit with higher air fares and extra security before boarding flights, under new plans for armed US immigration officers to be stationed at UK airports.

The change, which would see transatlantic passengers clearing immigration formalities before boarding an aircraft, is being discussed in Washington and Whitehall with officials understood to be negotiating over the practicalities.

Under the plans airlines could be forced to pay for US security staff and their families to live in the UK, meaning they are likely to pass these extra costs onto passengers travelling from Britain to the US.

Passengers are also likely to be asked to leave more time between turning up at airports before flights, as they will have to undergo questioning by US security in addition to usual checks.

Armed US immigration officers stationed at British airports under radical new plan that could drive up air fares and queues

Doesn't this happen in Shannon already?

[Paddy]

A former contractor friend from the UK is married to an American. The family are furious of the ridiculous formalities and delays at the US border when traveling to and from the US.

[Mordac]

Armed US immigration officers stationed at British airports under radical new plan that could drive up air fares and queues

British holidaymakers visiting the US could be hit with higher air fares and extra security before boarding flights, under new plans for armed US immigration officers to be stationed at UK airports.

The change, which would see transatlantic passengers clearing immigration formalities before boarding an aircraft, is being discussed in Washington and Whitehall with officials understood to be negotiating over the practicalities.

Under the plans airlines could be forced to pay for US security staff and their families to live in the UK, meaning they are likely to pass these extra costs onto passengers travelling from Britain to the US.

Passengers are also likely to be asked to leave more time between turning up at airports before flights, as they will have to undergo questioning by US security in addition to usual checks.

Armed US immigration officers stationed at British airports under radical new plan that could drive up air fares and queues

I've stopped travelling to the US, immigration was never much fun in the old days, but in the last decade it's become farcical. I remember at trip to California (admittedly a bloody long time ago), from landing at SFO to walking outside the terminal took about 25 mins. What would it be today, I wonder? A couple of days? A week?
BiL is taking the kids to Florida in a couple of weeks, we think he's insane. At least the airport queues should prepare the girls for the visit to Disneyland...

[TestMangler]

Is this because England is a muslim country ??

[AtW]

Great idea! Why not have all security checks done on board? Anyone who is deemed a risk can be just chucked out of the plane while it's over the ocean. It will help feed endangered species of sharks too.

If they catch terrorist it will be on sovereign US territory

[xoggoth]

If US wants to do extra checks then should do so inside their own airplanes upon boarding

Great idea! Why not have all security checks done on board? Anyone who is deemed a risk can be just chucked out of the plane while it's over the ocean. It will help feed endangered species of sharks too.