Reply to: Shoot A Terrorist

[OwlHoot]

Only for those folk outside cities and large towns linky

Devon and Cornwall Crime Commissioner says in extreme circumstances gun owners should be allowed to shoot terrorists.

Absolutely, for example terrorists letting their dogs worry sheep!

FFS. A gag is pretty lame when it turns out two or three people have already made it!

But seriously, wasn't an Islamist terrorist cell discovered in Ilfracombe recently?

[northernladyuk]

Armed police officers are highly trained and yet still make the occasional mistake. Every time there's a fatal shooting an investigation follows. And a crime commissioner is proposing some random bloke/blokess be allowed to shoot a 'terrorist' or someone who happens to be in the vicinity at the time and happens to be brown. Can I suggest we invest in training more of the people who are supposed to protect us instead?

People won't be able to shoot

a 'terrorist' or someone who happens to be in the vicinity at the time and happens to be brown.

They will however continue to be able to use reasonable force to stop a crime. I really can't see the problem with this.

[vetran]

And no!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ot-and-killed/

Overall, Branas’s study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher.

While it may be that the type of people who carry firearms are simply more likely to get shot, it may be that guns give a sense of empowerment that causes carriers to overreact in tense situations, or encourages them to visit neighbourhoods they probably shouldn’t, Branas speculates. Supporters of the Second Amendment shouldn’t worry that the right to bear arms is under threat, however. “We don’t have an answer as to whether guns are protective or perilous,” Branas says. “This study is a beginning.”

Its bad enough when you are caught with an offensive table leg by the Police can you imagine being anywhere near an armed SpurterScot or AssGuru in a tense situation????

[Mordac]

I thought they were sheep worriers?

No, that's Plaid Cymru.

[Elliegirl]

Armed police officers are highly trained and yet still make the occasional mistake. Every time there's a fatal shooting an investigation follows. And a crime commissioner is proposing some random bloke/blokess be allowed to shoot a 'terrorist' or someone who happens to be in the vicinity at the time and happens to be brown. Can I suggest we invest in training more of the people who are supposed to protect us instead?

[Elliegirl]

Yep. I applaud this idea.

Of course you do.

[Paddy]

It's all very well saying you can just shoot a terrorist but all the police find is a corpse and hear what you tell them. They can't just slap you on the back and sing "For he's a jolly good fellow", they need to investigate it.

It's bit late now. Oops.

[BlasterBates]

It's all very well saying you can just shoot a terrorist but all the police find is a corpse and hear what you tell them. They can't just slap you on the back and sing "For he's a jolly good fellow", they need to investigate it.

[SueEllen]

Maybe, but if you survive you are facing long and painfull prosecution

Not necessarily.

You can use reasonable force against someone, kill them, and not be prosecuted.

Though I've only heard it for stabbing someone to death with a knife not shooting them.

[SueEllen]

They already are allowed to use reasonable force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-de...in_English_law

The Torygraph article I linked to pointed that out.

[quackhandle]

This idea could only ever come from some country bumpkin in Cornwall; as if a terrorist is going to wander around empty fields in the middle of nowhere, so that a Farmer could hunt him down with a shotgun.

A farmer or hobby marksman is not going to be wandering around Woolworths, or stirring his soup in a restaurant with a rifle when the terrorist strikes.

Im were worrin' the sheep, Jethro.



qh

[northernladyuk]

Only for those folk outside cities and large towns linky

Devon and Cornwall Crime Commissioner says in extreme circumstances gun owners should be allowed to shoot terrorists.

They already are allowed to use reasonable force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-de...in_English_law

[MrMarkyMark]

Tally Ho, maybe the Conservatives can push this through as national policy and then the hunt will have something useful to contribute to the country.

Sorted.

[BrilloPad]

Enough is enough...

Of country bumpkins shooting anything that moves? Hear, hear...

[diseasex]

It's called "reasonable force". This is old linky but in English Common law you can defend yourself using reasonable force.

So shooting a terrorist if you happen to have a gun legally is reasonable force. The immediate problem you face is that the police would try and take you out afterwards.

Maybe, but if you survive you are facing long and painfull prosecution