Reply to: Oh FFs

[BrilloPad]

So no treatment for anyone in A&E who is drunk? No treatment for smokers or obese?

Not to mention crossing the road! No-one is forced to cross a road.

[BrilloPad]

Totally agree. Individual freedoms are fine provided others don't have to pick up the bill.

So no treatment for anyone in A&E who is drunk? No treatment for smokers or obese?

[xoggoth]

Cultural sensitivities should not be given precedence over the very real harm that consequently takes place. Also it just gives the intolerant more and very real ammunition to demonise. Western liberal democracies should be robust in not allowing unhealthy practices just because its 'traditional'

Totally agree. Individual freedoms are fine provided others don't have to pick up the bill.

Cultural and religious practices should also not be allowed to trump civilised, rational and humane laws. We should ban halal and kosher slaughter and circumcision. Why are we tolerating the unnecessary mutilation of infants? Of course any such suggestion is called Islamophobic, anti-Semitic etc,

[BrilloPad]

The thing is nowadays, banning marriage is not the same as banning making children. Plenty of couples are having kids without marriage.

Much better solution is to establish the relation between the parents in the pre-natal exams, then make them aware of the risks and make them sign a waiver that the state is not going to finance any genetic disabilities caused by the inbreeding.

Everyone should be sterilised until they can pass an exam assessing their suitability as parents.

[BrilloPad]

and the Isle of Wight



Ofsted chairman quits after Isle of Wight 'inbreeding' comments

and the royals

Isn't that why the queen selected a different father for Andrew and Edward?

[sal]

The thing is nowadays, banning marriage is not the same as banning making children. Plenty of couples are having kids without marriage.

Much better solution is to establish the relation between the parents in the pre-natal exams, then make them aware of the risks and make them sign a waiver that the state is not going to finance any genetic disabilities caused by the inbreeding.

[SueEllen]

Cultural sensitivities should not be given precedence over the very real harm that consequently takes place. Also it just gives the intolerant more and very real ammunition to demonise. Western liberal democracies should be robust in not allowing unhealthy practices just because its 'traditional'.

Funnily enough most of the first cousin marriages I know about are in white British population.

The problem with some other cultures is because they marry cousins over generations, like the Royal families did in Europe, even if they aren't marrying a first cousin they are still too closely related if there is a blood or other genetic disorder in the family.

I know one of my school friends' sisters' married a second cousin and the subsequent birth defects were due to this. As a result my friend and her next sister married who they liked pointing this out to their parents. The parents were devastated to have sick grandchildren.

[vetran]

My wife only told me they were related. She only got involved when they had to take 3 of them, that the parents had tried to look after at home, back into care.

The parents had them tied up in a cellar, they wanted the greatly enhanced carers allowance that comes with profound disabilities.

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How sad.

[Gibbon]

Was this a half-sibling relationship or a cousin relationship?

I heard years ago when I was a teenager that this is a major problem in parts of the Middle East e.g. Saudi.

There are also female Labour MPs in the NW who campaigned to stop cousin marriages in their local communities due to the impact it had on the children and families. The national Labour party wasn't impressed....

My wife only told me they were related. She only got involved when they had to take 3 of them, that the parents had tried to look after at home, back into care.

The parents had them tied up in a cellar, they wanted the greatly enhanced carers allowance that comes with profound disabilities.

Cultural sensitivities should not be given precedence over the very real harm that consequently takes place. Also it just gives the intolerant more and very real ammunition to demonise. Western liberal democracies should be robust in not allowing unhealthy practices just because its 'traditional'.

[SueEllen]

Half brothers and sisters, not uncommon for some cultures to have more than one wife, although only one is 'offical' in this country.

One family my wife has had to deal with had produced seven profoundly disabled boys, both physical and learning difficulties before they stopped. All need 24 hour 2 to 1 care.

Was this a half-sibling relationship or a cousin relationship?

I heard years ago when I was a teenager that this is a major problem in parts of the Middle East e.g. Saudi.

There are also female Labour MPs in the NW who campaigned to stop cousin marriages in their local communities due to the impact it had on the children and families. The national Labour party wasn't impressed....

[Gibbon]

So what degree of kinship is permitted that's closer than cousins?

Half brothers and sisters, not uncommon for some cultures to have more than one wife, although only one is 'offical' in this country.

One family my wife has had to deal with had produced seven profoundly disabled boys, both physical and learning difficulties before they stopped. All need 24 hour 2 to 1 care.

[NotAllThere]

Time to ban marriages amongst cousins or closer.

So what degree of kinship is permitted that's closer than cousins?

[Paddy]

Well that'll be half of Cornwall fecked then.

and the Isle of Wight

Ofsted chairman quits after Isle of Wight 'inbreeding' comments

Ofsted chairman quits after Isle of Wight 'inbreeding' comments

and the royals

[vetran]

Well that'll be half of Cornwall fecked then.

fine, Norfolk might have issues as well.

No fear or favour!

[MarillionFan]

East London child deaths are due to parents being RELATED | Daily Mail Online



Time to ban marriages amongst cousins or closer.

Well that'll be half of Cornwall fecked then.