Reply to: Should the EU be making progressive scientific constructions like this?

[tomtomagain]

the clever thing is, the location, imagine if that was located in the UK, all that investment, all those jobs, have a look on their web page, the "Project" has a 20 years timeline just to get to the point where they switch on the machine !!

after Brexit there'll be no chance of Britain hosting projects like that.

Shame, but, hey, exporting to the commonwealth and former Empire countries will more than make up for silly projects like that

Milan.

You mean like this? https://www.euro-fusion.org/jet/

Or this? About Us - Diamond Light Source

Or this? SKA Project | The University of Manchester | Jodrell Bank Centre for Astrophysics

Or this? Rutherford Appleton Laboratory - Science and Technology Facilities Council

[darmstadt]

There are probably only a thousand people in the world who would work on this sort of project, there are millions of builders.

Although apparently there will be a few less in the UK soon

[squarepeg]

Impressive, but I like this clock better :-)

[BrilloPad]

the "Project" has a 20 years timeline just to get to the point where they switch on the machine !!

I did the maths of this in final year at university. And then there were building a machine that would take 20 years to switch on.

I have more faith in the church than that load of charlatans. I f**king hate the church....

[vetran]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%A9delon_Castle

its excellent I note the Beeb sent their historians over and made some great telly there

BBC Two - Secrets of the Castle with Ruth, Peter and Tom

but we got there first (after Kon Tiki)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butser_Ancient_Farm

The Roundhouse Project

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_archaeology

[Smartie]

Or this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%A9delon_Castle

[PurpleGorilla]

and there is so much hot air here!

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[vetran]

We are a global leader in wind technology. Long may it blow.

and there is so much hot air here!

[PurpleGorilla]

Indeed, how likely is the UK to compete in the future for projects like this to be built on the little island? If you're in the customs union you've access to many many suppliers without red tape when crossing borders.

Why not. Japan, Korea, and Russia all have smaller economies than the UK.

http://fusionforenergy.europa.eu/und...er_parties.jpg

Isn't CERN outside the European Union.

Saudi Arabia are about to build a cyclotron.

We are a global leader in wind technology. Long may it blow.

[vetran]

Bob,

you have a point, but the difference between using the money to build houses and using the money to experiment with the goal of finding this new form of cheap electricity is....

Building a house just houses that family

Do the experimental project for 50 years will employee the father who feeds the family and buys the house

Therefore the investment in the Experimental Thingy is better for the economy

Milan.

There are probably only a thousand people in the world who would work on this sort of project, there are millions of builders.

[bobspud]

Bob,

you have a point, but the difference between using the money to build houses and using the money to experiment with the goal of finding this new form of cheap electricity is....

Building a house just houses that family

Do the experimental project for 50 years will employee the father who feeds the family and buys the house

Therefore the investment in the Experimental Thingy is better for the economy

Milan.

How many workers would it take to erect/modify the houses and the solar panels? Im guessing the kinds number of people that can work on nuclear fusion reactors are fairly small compared to the thousands of bread winners that can build a wall or re-roof a building.

In an ideal world we should do both but seeing as there is already a sun there to provide the free energy today spending billions to re-create one is a little pointless.

[scooterscot]

Indeed, how likely is the UK to compete in the future for projects like this to be built on the little island? If you're in the customs union you've access to many many suppliers without red tape when crossing borders.

[milanbenes]

Hang on! for the cost of that project, how many houses could be:

a) Provided solar panels like the Tesla roof?
b) Be rebuilt entirely to a passive model that uses ground heat
c) Mix of the above

Yes its a great experiment to do but bang for buck the money should be else where

Bob,

you have a point, but the difference between using the money to build houses and using the money to experiment with the goal of finding this new form of cheap electricity is....

Building a house just houses that family

Do the experimental project for 50 years will employee the father who feeds the family and buys the house

Therefore the investment in the Experimental Thingy is better for the economy

Milan.

[bobspud]

https://www.iter.org/

looks good, why not invest in the future ?

Milan.

Hang on! for the cost of that project, how many houses could be:

a) Provided solar panels like the Tesla roof?
b) Be rebuilt entirely to a passive model that uses ground heat
c) Mix of the above

Yes its a great experiment to do but bang for buck the money should be else where

[milanbenes]

the clever thing is, the location, imagine if that was located in the UK, all that investment, all those jobs, have a look on their web page, the "Project" has a 20 years timeline just to get to the point where they switch on the machine !!

after Brexit there'll be no chance of Britain hosting projects like that.

Shame, but, hey, exporting to the commonwealth and former Empire countries will more than make up for silly projects like that

Milan.