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The Brexit trap that's closing on Britons who live in Europe
The Brexit trap that's closing on Britons who live in Europe
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...live-in-europe
UK citizens living in Europe will end up with fewer rights than EU citizens living in the UK after Brexit and fear they could be “locked in” to the country where they have moved to, it has emerged.
“The EU citizens in the UK will be able to travel freely if they want they go to another country. I can’t. I have two opportunities – one is to remain here for the rest of my life or the second is to go back to the UK. We are landlocked,”
“You regularly see the 3 million EU citizens in the UK and 1.2 million UK citizens in the EU in the same sentence as if they are in mirror positions,” he said. “They are not. UK citizens will lose all their rights, EU citizens do not. We are in a far worse position.”
UK citizens won’t lose their rights, they simply won’t be able to use them while they live in the UK,” Hole said. “They will still have the right to live in another EU country, the right to work there, the right to freedom of movement, the right to have their qualifications recognised.
Our position is we will have none of these,” he went on. “The 1.2 million UK citizens living in Europe will lose all their acquired EU rights after Brexit. How we address that remains a question herI, as a UK citizen, lose my European citizen rights in 27 countries, other EU nationals lose their rights in one country the UK. Hardly a good deal for the UK and certainly not democratic or fair to those UK nationals who live in other parts of the EU,” said Bernadette Faulkner, who has lived in Munich with her British husband, Alan, since 1977.
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Originally posted by Paddy View PostYou are quite right and the same goes for the rest of the EU. My suggestions are in support of obtaining a residents permit.
If Brexit goes horribly wrong, there were be many disappointed property owners who will be bound by the three or six month stay limitation.
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Originally posted by SimonMac View PostI am going the Irish Passport route myself
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Poor British refugees, don't worry most of the European countries are open to receive you all... for now.
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Originally posted by SandyD View PostI am not moving to quire citizenship or to get EU passport to work in Europe, I genuinely just want to move to retire kind of thing, its something I wanted to do for a while but needed to do some contracts to pay more of the mortgage...I'd also like to take my family with me, which maybe a problem as they are too young to retire. I can show income like BTL ( however one doesn't know how the BTL will pan out after Brexit if its a hard Brexit !!)
My grandparents are not Irish ...
A lot of Germans retire in Turkey so it I doubt it will be a problem.
What about similar places in the UK such as Bognor Regis?
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostNot the expats I know. Brexit has just speeded up the intent to become a citizen of the only true democracy in Europe.
You want to be careful of that. Owning property or even a ltd co in Switzerland will not give you a residency permit, nor a work permit, meaning you're limited to 3 months stay if you're not part of the EU. I can imagine that once Britain has left the EU, British citizens will find that they are in a similar situation.
If Brexit goes horribly wrong, there were be many disappointed property owners who will be bound by the three or six month stay limitation.
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Originally posted by Paddy View Post
A first move would be to open up a bank account in the country of your choice. (Do this NOW).
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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostUK Expats in Europe...............and ye shall knowest them by their interminable whining and bitching about the democratic wishes of a country they have long since departed and stopped contributing to.
Originally posted by Paddy View PostThere are some EU countries that don’t recognise dual citizenship but the rule is not enforced with the exception of Austria. In fact the EU says that citizens should not be barred from having dual nationality.
Residency is the main path to obtaining citizenship but it is not the only factor. Owning property will help a lot as it is proof of address and proof of paying council tax and utility bills.
A first move would be to open up a bank account in the country of your choice. (Do this NOW).
Another tip is to open up a limited company in the country of your choice even if it is dormant. Some countries will encourage new business start-ups and you can start up a company with one Euro and a free business bank account.
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Originally posted by SandyD View PostI recall long time ago many here had properties in France, I think a few actually had their families living in France while they go contracting wherever required. Am sure some of you may have properties in Spain and the like... I expect the ones who were there for a while can get an EU passport.. what about the ones who just owned a holiday property?
What is the view with regards the Brexit now?? I have planned to move to Europe someday permanently, am contracting in Europe now, but would like to move permanently not for work, just to live there. I know its a bad time now with guarantee of UK expats rights living in Europe.. anyone have any thought on moving at this bad time??Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostOn the legalities, a period of residency (not property ownership) is required to qualify for citizenship. Some countries (like Spain) do not recognise dual citizenship, but I don't know whether in practice they have a way of enforcing the repudiation of British citizenship.
Do you happen to have an Irish grandparent? Irish citizenship through birth or descent
Residency is the main path to obtaining citizenship but it is not the only factor. Owning property will help a lot as it is proof of address and proof of paying council tax and utility bills.
A first move would be to open up a bank account in the country of your choice. (Do this NOW).
Another tip is to open up a limited company in the country of your choice even if it is dormant. Some countries will encourage new business start-ups and you can start up a company with one Euro and a free business bank account.
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