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Previously on "Reality is not real."

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Actually, it revolves around me.
    It's more likely to revolve around MF according to science, specifically Newton's law of universal gravitation.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Yes we love to be selfish as if the universe revolves around our species.
    Actually, it revolves around me.

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  • vetran
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    Cogito ergo invoice

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Where's all the dark matter? Everywhere, we just need to evolve something better than eyes to see it.
    Better eyes won't work. I'm sure dark matter comprises tachyons (mass-energy particles and fields travelling backwards in time and hence faster than light).

    That's the reason it won't interact with normal matter other than "in bulk" via gravity - To do so would violate causality, because you could use it to signal from the future to the past.

    Also tachyons constantly accelerate and in doing so they lose energy. So in the limit, they may manifest themselves as dark energy, gently and uniformly expanding the whole observable universe.

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  • Hobosapien
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    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Maybe from a suitable perspective, but that obviously isn't true from every perspective (ours for example, experiencing our universe as commonly understood). Otherwise there would be no distinguishing features or separation of energy in any form.

    Yes we love to be selfish as if the universe revolves around our species.

    When the aliens arrive and say they crossed the universe to get here just for a day out and we say but you can't travel faster than light, they'll just say "what's light?".

    Of course they may already be here and we just can't detect them as they exist in a different dimension than our senses and sensors can detect.

    Where's all the dark matter? Everywhere, we just need to evolve something better than eyes to see it.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Everything does happen at once. The big bang and the life and death of the physical universe was all over in an instant. ...
    Maybe from a suitable perspective, but that obviously isn't true from every perspective (ours for example, experiencing our universe as commonly understood). Otherwise there would be no distinguishing features or separation of energy in any form.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Judging by some of the permies i'm working with a small weeks worth of week seems to take a lifetime.
    Canteen staff having to work overtime?

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Everything does happen at once. The big bang and the life and death of the physical universe was all over in an instant. It's only our perception of time that makes the universe appear to have existed for billions of years so far.

    To grasp this, start by thinking how time is perceived by insects, birds, and other living creatures that operate at a much faster pace than we humans do. One of our minutes must feel like a lifetime to some species and indeed is at the microscopic level.
    Judging by some of the permies i'm working with a small weeks worth of week seems to take a lifetime.

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  • Hobosapien
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    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Also, those limits on things such as light speed needn't imply lack of simulation resources. They also stop everything happening at once!

    Everything does happen at once. The big bang and the life and death of the physical universe was all over in an instant. It's only our perception of time that makes the universe appear to have existed for billions of years so far.

    To grasp this, start by thinking how time is perceived by insects, birds, and other living creatures that operate at a much faster pace than we humans do. One of our minutes must feel like a lifetime to some species and indeed is at the microscopic level.

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    And humanity must struggle on minus one JP Morgan executive.
    He was an IT worker

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  • OwlHoot
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    "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~~~ Albert Einstein
    Seems like some people are inclined to assume Einstein was implying by this quote that the apparent "naturality" and spontaneity of reality is actually artificial or simulated. But obviously all he meant was that its deeper aspects differ qualitatively from how it appears to us in everyday situations.

    Also, those limits on things such as light speed needn't imply lack of simulation resources. They also stop everything happening at once!

    Furthermore, the argument about every advanced civilization embarking on a giant simulation making this more
    probable than "raw naturality" can be turned against itself: What is to prevent sentient beings within a simulation from starting their own sub-simulation, and so on ad infinitum? That would be the most likely outcome, and the original simulation would grind to a halt in no time.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Yes, but it doesn't prove whether he was right or wrong. For all we know he has escaped this false construct and moved to another better one. The only epitaph in this reality was they he topped himself, but from the other he's screaming at us to jump and escape our Matrix life.
    And humanity must struggle on minus one JP Morgan executive.

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  • MarillionFan
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    The multiverse thing is really bizarre. JP Morgan executive who jumped from bank's roof 'obsessed with couple's suicide pact' - Telegraph

    Some JPM banker believed he would wake up in a parallel universe where he had won the lottery.

    That was a bad day. The previous day a colleague died through over work. And I gave blood that morning after 3 hours of exercise - the veins closed up however the nurse was determined to get the blood out. Very painful. My last blood donation since then.

    Yes, but it doesn't prove whether he was right or wrong. For all we know he has escaped this false construct and moved to another better one. The only epitaph in this reality was they he topped himself, but from the other he's screaming at us to jump and escape our Matrix life.

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    String theory, which is the most common accepted attempt at unification, is drawing flak from some practicising physicists since it emerges out of the mathematics rather than being able to be tested empirically.
    So it becomes a philosophical argument about the platonicity of mathematics and its constructs with respect to the real world.
    The theory of multiple universes similarly emerges form the maths, but cannot be tested empirically.
    The multiverse thing is really bizarre. JP Morgan executive who jumped from bank's roof 'obsessed with couple's suicide pact' - Telegraph

    Some JPM banker believed he would wake up in a parallel universe where he had won the lottery.

    That was a bad day. The previous day a colleague died through over work. And I gave blood that morning after 3 hours of exercise - the veins closed up however the nurse was determined to get the blood out. Very painful. My last blood donation since then.

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  • sasguru
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Dare I ask how unification theory is going?
    String theory, which is the most common accepted attempt at unification, is drawing flak from some practicising physicists since it emerges out of the mathematics rather than being able to be tested empirically.
    So it becomes a philosophical argument about the platonicity of mathematics and its constructs with respect to the real world.
    The theory of multiple universes similarly emerges form the maths, but cannot be tested empirically.

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