Tories are 'party of lower taxes'

[vetran]

Since the Tories are raising taxes, that can only mean that they like to indulge their unnatural instincts.

I would put the abbopotumus down as an unnatural instinct.

You know if Labour get in contractors will be bent over and rogered harder than MF contracted to NLYUK on 'piecework'

[_V_]

You know, I've often wondered, given that all parties attempting to get elected will lie, and given that the average voter is thick as pig doings, why doesn't a political party just go the whole hog and come out with the most egregious, but voter swaying lie possible?

If it were me, I'd simply run on a manifesto that said, "Vote for me, and everyone that does gets £1 million!". I'd keep repeating the mantra over and over again, even when challenged (you know, ala the brexit lot with their £350 million a week to the EU nonsense). Come election day, the voters would fall for it hook, line & sinker, I'd get elected to power then deny any and all knowledge of ever making such a ridiculous claim in the first place.

Since there's never any consequences for parties who break their manifesto pledges, there's nothing to worry about, and this is a win, win, surefire way to get elected to power. Surely?

Don't forget to promise a wall around the country and to drain the swamp too.

[AtW]

Why promise million when hundred quid buys you the votes and you can take it back with stealth taxes?

[billybiro]

It's the wrong argument anyway. Sadly that is the soundbite that will appeal to the average voter.

However, the real intention should be to be the party that raises the most tax revenues. As we've seen elsewhere, that might mean cutting some to encourage growth. Labour's brainless approach is to up the rates, thus encouraging both avoidance and departure...

You know, I've often wondered, given that all parties attempting to get elected will lie, and given that the average voter is thick as pig doings, why doesn't a political party just go the whole hog and come out with the most egregious, but voter swaying lie possible?

If it were me, I'd simply run on a manifesto that said, "Vote for me, and everyone that does gets £1 million!". I'd keep repeating the mantra over and over again, even when challenged (you know, ala the brexit lot with their £350 million a week to the EU nonsense). Come election day, the voters would fall for it hook, line & sinker, I'd get elected to power then deny any and all knowledge of ever making such a ridiculous claim in the first place.

Since there's never any consequences for parties who break their manifesto pledges, there's nothing to worry about, and this is a win, win, surefire way to get elected to power. Surely?

[Swamp Thing]

the real intention should be to be the party that raises the most tax revenues. As we've seen elsewhere, that might mean cutting some to encourage growth.

Unfortunately I don't see the Tories thinking this way any longer. They're taking a binary approach to taxation i.e. Just increase direct taxes, because:
- it's easier for the electorate to compare and contrast with current. That somehow makes things more transparent and therefore to be 'trusted'.
- it shows 'fairness'.
- it's relatively simple to push through. And lord knows May and the team have bigger fish to fry in the next 2 years.
- it's about as much as Hammond's young advisors (no doubt inherited from Osborne's BTL era) can get their heads around.

Direct taxes will simply increase. SME's and middle England employed will get taped the most.
Hammond and his team of luvvies won't go for the large corporations. The Tories will have enough Brexit-related problems there and May will tell him to leave off.

I reckon the marginal rate band will fall progressively again. VAT will go up. NI will go up. CT will go up. Pensions will be hit. The £2k divi exemption will disappear (2018-19), followed a year later by an increase to the current 7.5% tax for basic rate payers. Will prob go up to 20% because it's a nice round number, it's binary and 'fair'. And it's a populist measure that will go down well with the PAYE class.

The likes of Caffe Nero, Amazon, banks, Spirts Direct and so on will be overlooked, since the Tories will do a deal to retain their presence in UK post-Brexit.

We are so fooked...

[AtW]

Since the Tories are raising taxes, that can only mean that they like to indulge their unnatural instincts.

Tory Party is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural...

[NotAllThere]

...
Speaking in Dudley, she said Labour's "natural instinct" was to raise tax...

Since the Tories are raising taxes, that can only mean that they like to indulge their unnatural instincts.

[AtW]

They should learn how to do more for less money

[malvolio]

It's the wrong argument anyway. Sadly that is the soundbite that will appeal to the average voter.

However, the real intention should be to be the party that raises the most tax revenues. As we've seen elsewhere, that might mean cutting some to encourage growth. Labour's brainless approach is to up the rates, thus encouraging both avoidance and departure...

[WordIsBond]

They've never raised taxes in government yet, you've got to give them that.

[AtW]

One party might not raise taxes. Vote UKIP.

[WordIsBond]

I can give you some guidance with this, mate.

The Tories will raise taxes.

The Lib Dems will raise taxes more.

Labour will raise taxes even more.

None of that can even remotely be in doubt.

One party might not raise taxes. Vote UKIP.

HTHBIDI.

[AtW]

So you want to just bend over on the basis that all 3 parties want higher taxes???

Correct aim would be to beat out tax increases out of at least one party, otherwise they are getting no votes and could sit in opposition all their life.

No tax increases are acceptable

[_V_]

All three parties will raise taxes, either directly or through stealth taxes.

Some has to pay and as always it will be those earning £50K to £250K that will be the target. Those one more can probably afford a tax consultant, those on less are the new "poor".

[AtW]

"The Conservatives are "a lower tax party", Theresa May has insisted, amid speculation her party may raise taxes if they win the general election.

Speaking in Dudley, she said Labour's "natural instinct" was to raise tax.

But the prime minister would not say whether she would keep her party's 2015 manifesto pledge of no rises in VAT, national insurance or income tax.

The shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, accused the government of planning "a tax bombshell".

The Liberal Democrats suggested Mrs May intended to hit the pockets of the "white van man".

Chancellor Philip Hammond said on Thursday there should be "flexibility to manage the system" of taxation."

General election 2017: PM says Tories are 'party of lower taxes' - BBC News



So now they will increase taxes whilst claiming they are lower taxation party