Reply to: Send them home 2

[vetran]

Had a similar raid on a nail bar in my local town about 3 years ago. Arrests made for illegal migrants and cannabis. Regardless of whether one is pro or anti immigration, it is surely quite right for any state to ensure that only those legally entitled to stay should do so.

Even when they are here legally, one has to question how those who work in a plethora of low skill businesses like nail bars, car washes, fast food shops, leaflet distribution, etc. are any benefit to the rest of us. Any increase in national wealth is just divided among a similarly increased number of people. Basic maths - you don't raise an average by adding more of average quality.

indeed as few earning below higher rate actually contribute to the country (i.e. put in more than they take out according to the ONS). Adding average earners makes the situation worse. As the nail bar staff are unlikely to get anyway near average earnings or paying significant tax they are effectively taking out.

[vetran]

Does anyone suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration is racist? Maybe they do, probably in the US they do. Not sure about here.

The accusations of racism tends to be towards those that don't like legal immigration. Which isn't entirely fair, but then sometimes the same people that say it's just about numbers one minute and moan about being tarred with the racist brush will be declaring that Mälmo is the rape capital of the world due to all the muslims the next.

yeah that would be bad

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/302274...tistics-u-turn

'IT WAS WRONG OF ME' Swedish minister apologises for FALSELY claiming sex attacks are decreasing in the country after Nigel Farage branded Malmo ‘the rape capital of Europe’

note : If they applied for a Visa and breach the conditions by working the Visa is invalid they are no longer legal migrants.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-announce.html

[VectraMan]

we can get our heads round them fine, its the loons that suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration or working is racist that gets on my nerves.

Does anyone suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration is racist? Maybe they do, probably in the US they do. Not sure about here.

The accusations of racism tends to be towards those that don't like legal immigration. Which isn't entirely fair, but then sometimes the same people that say it's just about numbers one minute and moan about being tarred with the racist brush will be declaring that Mälmo is the rape capital of the world due to all the muslims the next.

[xoggoth]

Had a similar raid on a nail bar in my local town about 3 years ago. Arrests made for illegal migrants and cannabis. Regardless of whether one is pro or anti immigration, it is surely quite right for any state to ensure that only those legally entitled to stay should do so.

Even when they are here legally, one has to question how those who work in a plethora of low skill businesses like nail bars, car washes, fast food shops, leaflet distribution, etc. are any benefit to the rest of us. Any increase in national wealth is just divided among a similarly increased number of people. Basic maths - you don't raise an average by adding more of average quality.

[Paddy]

Do nail bars pay tacks?

[LondonManc]

There are many ways

Overstaying
Bogus students
Working without a working Visa
Sham Marriages
False passports.

we can get our heads round them fine, its the loons that suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration or working is racist that gets on my nerves.

+1 To see that people are deliberately evading the tax system to gain advantage is annoyance, not bigotry.

[vetran]

There are many ways

Overstaying
Bogus students
Working without a working Visa
Sham Marriages
False passports.

we can get our heads round them fine, its the loons that suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration or working is racist that gets on my nerves.

[VectraMan]

I think if you read the numerous stories on the web about the nail salons, I think you'll find they were in possession of legal passports but didn't have the legal paperwork to work in the UK...This is not an EU migration problem...

It's always far more likely they come in legally as tourists/visitors and then either don't leave or break the rules about working. Something the "Get control of our borders" types never could grasp.

If anyone is interested:

Immigration officers raid firms in Bicester and Banbury - Banbury Guardian

[SueEllen]

I know when I was growing up there were none around so it's a recently new narcissistic behaviour if you ask me.

If you wanted your nails done years ago you would go to a beauty salon not a separate nail bar.

Now some beauty salons specifically advertised they are nail bars first and beauty salons second.

Oh and when there is a down turn which ones last?

[NigelJK]

I know when I was growing up there were none around so it's a recently new narcissistic behaviour if you ask me.

[darmstadt]

you can doubt all you like but most people like proof.

I'm not frothing at the mouth, I'm providing a possible route.

If you want to deny that there are fake passports out there then fine. But it appears there were.

If you think cross EU migration has no impact on British immigrants then fine.

do please provide some proof. Or carry on talking out your hat as usual.

Maybe this is how they got into the country: Vietnamese nail bar sham marriage racket busted | Immigration Matters although that one is going back a while

I think if you read the numerous stories on the web about the nail salons, I think you'll find they were in possession of legal passports but didn't have the legal paperwork to work in the UK...This is not an EU migration problem...

[BrilloPad]

Coming here, buffing our nails.

If they buff anything else NLyUK will get upset.

[vetran]

Fake, fake, fake...https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-investigators

Asked whether the UK would pay a fine, Theresa May’s official spokesman said: “We’ve not received a bill from the European Commission. This report is not a bill. It’s an estimate. We don’t recognise the figures. HMRC are looking at it now.” The spokesman said the issue was entirely separate from Brexit negotiations.

Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs said it had an “excellent record in tackling fraud and rule-breaking of all kinds” and was considering Olaf’s findings and recommendations.

So probably Bollux, Bollux , Bollux

[vetran]

Frothing at the mouth with a story over a year old which must have no relevance now otherwise the countries involded wouldn't be in the waiver program anymore which they are:



I doubt very much that these people came in on forged or stolen or otherwise dodgy EU passports

you can doubt all you like but most people like proof.

I'm not frothing at the mouth, I'm providing a possible route.

If you want to deny that there are fake passports out there then fine. But it appears there were.

If you think cross EU migration has no impact on British immigrants then fine.

do please provide some proof. Or carry on talking out your hat as usual.

[darmstadt]

Fake, fake, fake...https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-investigators