Reply to: Now be nice to Diane...

[SueEllen]

Plenty of great ethnic minority candidates out there I'm liking Siddiq Khan better than most. Would Vote for Trevor McDonald.

Neither of whom are stupid enough to serve under the current party leaders.

[vetran]

His point, dummy, is that between 2001 and 2015 the percentage of ethnic minorities in the UK has increased from 8% to 13% i.e. almost doubled.

So although they are technically unrepresented in Parliament at present, that appears to be mainly because their percentage in the country is increasing too fast for the political system to keep up! Or it may be because a large part of the increase are currently still juveniles.

(This is based on vetran's summary comments in his post - I haven't had time yet to read the articles he cited.)

spot on. Of course MPs that hang about a bit in the commons like Jezzy (MP since 1983) , Tom Watson (MP since 2001)Harriet Harman (MP since 1982) and Dame Margaret Beckett (MP since 1974) should move on to give the ethnic youngsters a chance. Also as mentioned unless the candidate is exceptional the selection committee will go for the safe route we all know how well Keith (call me Jim the plumber) Vaz (call me if you need any passports for cash) worked out and he was considered exceptional as was 'only a black mum would understand' Abbotpotomus.

Combine that with last month assguru was saying a poll of a selected subset of Sky's 12 million customers adjusted by class was obviously unrepresentative of the general population yet he expects the commons to exactly match the fast changing ethnic makeup of the UK.

What next each MP is DNA tested so we can get it exactly right - sorry Mrs May there is too much Nordic in your ancestry so you aren't suitable for service? Can we cut Gerry Adams in half to make the figures match??


Plenty of great ethnic minority candidates out there I'm liking Siddiq Khan better than most. Would Vote for Trevor McDonald.

[d000hg]

Initially, I thought it was to indicate she's barking mad, not because she's female.

If he'd said that it would at least have been slightly believable.

[BrilloPad]

Initially, I thought it was to indicate she's barking mad, not because she's female.

There you go!

I thought she was Becontree. 2 stops beyond Barking.

[vetran]

That's an invalid comparison and not the point of this thread.

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh* can change her political allegiance like Douglas Carswell but can't change her biological sex and her ethnic origins. So she shouldn't be abused by another member of Parliament for her biological sex and/or her ethnic origins. Neither should she be abused by members of the public for the same reasons.



*I have to use her rather than Ms Abbot to make my point otherwise you won't take it seriously.

someone takes Dirty Diana seriously?

[d000hg]

That's why the racist tool is in a safe seat. This is, after all, the woman who claimed that at her local hospital "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" were unsuitable as nurses because they had "never met a black person before".

It sounds like a good hospital to me.

[Chuck]

That's why the racist tool is in a safe seat. This is, after all, the woman who claimed that at her local hospital "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" were unsuitable as nurses because they had "never met a black person before".

Diane's casual racism

Imagine if a white politician made a derogatory comment about "poor black boys"

Or what about this?

She's as racist as the nutters she criticises.

[LondonManc]

That's a dumb post even by your standards. Go back and read what I said... getting the nomination to run for MP in a safe Labour seat is the achievement, the safer the seat the bigger the accomplishment even though paradoxically they're the easiest to win.

The best MPs should be put in the marginal seats.

That's why the racist tool is in a safe seat. This is, after all, the woman who claimed that at her local hospital "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" were unsuitable as nurses because they had "never met a black person before".

[d000hg]

Getting elected as a Labour MP in a seat that's been Labour since 1950 is difficult?

You're a bit new to Hackney and Stoke Newington I take it?

That's a dumb post even by your standards. Go back and read what I said... getting the nomination to run for MP in a safe Labour seat is the achievement, the safer the seat the bigger the accomplishment even though paradoxically they're the easiest to win.

The best MPs should be put in the marginal seats.

[NotAllThere]

Regardless of what you think about which party.

The fact that a grown man thinks it is acceptable, in a modern civilised society, to start randomly making dog noises when a colleague is speaking, for whatever reason, is unacceptable.

Initially, I thought it was to indicate she's barking mad, not because she's female.

If someone started barking in a work meeting you would get them sectioned.

There you go!

[LondonManc]

Yes because joining the party and getting a nomination to run as Labour MP are exactly the same thing. Even in the UK, getting elected as a black woman (even an horrible one) is still quite an achievement and denying the difficulty of that journey is asinine.

Getting elected as a Labour MP in a seat that's been Labour since 1950 is difficult?

You're a bit new to Hackney and Stoke Newington I take it?

[Big Blue Plymouth]

I'm sure she's been the victim of some appalling abuse and I'd be the first to condemn it.

This is what I have a problem with though:

there is a danger that Brexit could give some people permission to express sentiments that are anything but progressive and internationalist

Plenty of people (probably most) have socially conservative views and are against the kind of open borders that the internationalists espouse.

Myself included.

So why does she think it's a danger that commonly held opinions may be openly expressed?

Danger to whom exactly? Ethnic minorities? I doubt it since many of them, especially Asians, voted for Brexit.

No, I think the danger she's worried about is that the whole progressive project is about to be derailed.

Rather worrying statement that one.

[BrilloPad]

What does that have to do with anything? Petty attacks on personal appearance... low even by the erudite standards of CUK. If you'd care to post a photo of yourself for comparison?

So we all have to be nice to MF now and not comment on how he is fat enough to have significant gravity?

Fattism is allowed, even encouraged....

[OwlHoot]

Not sure what your point is, looks like ethnic minorities are under-represented in Parliament..

His point, dummy, is that between 2001 and 2015 the percentage of ethnic minorities in the UK has increased from 8% to 13% i.e. almost doubled.

So although they are technically unrepresented in Parliament at present, that appears to be mainly because their percentage in the country is increasing too fast for the political system to keep up! Or it may be because a large part of the increase are currently still juveniles.

(This is based on vetran's summary comments in his post - I haven't had time yet to read the articles he cited.)

[SueEllen]

So are UKIP. If they had the 83 seats their vote deserved(instead of 1) we might stand a chance of exiting the EU.....

That's an invalid comparison and not the point of this thread.

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh* can change her political allegiance like Douglas Carswell but can't change her biological sex and her ethnic origins. So she shouldn't be abused by another member of Parliament for her biological sex and/or her ethnic origins. Neither should she be abused by members of the public for the same reasons.



*I have to use her rather than Ms Abbot to make my point otherwise you won't take it seriously.