Reply to: EU learning the hard way

[WTFH]

Basic reading comprehension would do you well before you start using a dictionary. I neither stated nor implied that bigotry had anything to do with projection.

Ah, you got me there with your quick, witty comeback. 3 weeks to think it up? Are you as thick as champ, or thicker?

[SpontaneousOrder]

Ah the man without a dictionary is back.

The word bigot is a contraction of the phrase "By God, I'm right". Nothing to do with projection and everything to do with hating anyone who has a different view to you. It's a very isolationist standpoint, previously used in religious arguments, but seen in other areas too.

Basic reading comprehension would do you well before you start using a dictionary. I neither stated nor implied that bigotry had anything to do with projection.

[SueEllen]

I was joking, SueEllen thought it was funny or at least she joked with it. She may have constructed a Vetran Voodoo doll for all I know, would explain the back ache!

physician heal thyself.

Nah that would take too much effort.

[vetran]

Sorry, but can't answer that.

Says vetran, passively aggressively not rising above it and thereby being sexist.

The trick is to allow for the fact that there may be more to it. Where you give the benefit of the doubt, and how much, is entirely up to you.

I was joking, SueEllen thought it was funny or at least she joked with it. She may have constructed a Vetran Voodoo doll for all I know, would explain the back ache!

physician heal thyself.

[NotAllThere]

One question then NAT - why 7 days rather than 24 hours?

Sorry, but can't answer that.

how did I know it would be my fault! I could be sexist here but I will rise above it

Says vetran, passively aggressively not rising above it and thereby being sexist.

If I can't see things, then I have to base my opinions on what I can see.

The trick is to allow for the fact that there may be more to it. Where you give the benefit of the doubt, and how much, is entirely up to you.

[vetran]

Why are you apologising, he banned someone without giving a reason then said if you don't like it piss off elsewhere. If there was something more to it then the colossal prick could have mentioned it rather than being a big drama queen.

Because despite finding NAT frustrating he is actually an intelligent chap doing a dirty job.

I used to do that, but for various reasons I don't anymore. I also won't say if there is not more to it than that.

I'm prepared to accept there was more to it and I don't know.

[SueEllen]

how did I know it would be my fault! I could be sexist here but I will rise above it

You are a married man you are use to it.

If I can't see things, then I have to base my opinions on what I can see.

Your assumption I am clairvoyant and omnipresent is very flattering but despite what you & my wife believe I'm not psychic or a deity.

Humans are complicated. What they say or write is not always what they mean.

If I'm wrong tell me why or that its none of my business. Don't assume I know what is going on and get aggressive.

I have a cold and feel tulip so getting cross with you and then writing ranting carp on another thread was amusing.

And to be fair I didn't want to be like those posters in other threads who say things like "My friend says", "My sister says" etc. with " and 10 of the other women I know with different doctors agree with them".

Other bannings have been accompanied by text such as 'and misbehaviour via private messages' which we all respect. I don't mind posting some general crud (I read the mail for Deity's sake) but sending offensive PMs isn't on.

If that was what was happening then sorry to hear that.

The only idiot who sent me a rude PM got some mouthfuls in public.

[LondonManc]

Firstly, I don't always agree with all NATs decisions, however he can be reasoned with, which is indeed very rare on most forums.

DA will get over it, being an agent, he has the hide of a Rhino

Enough people have questioned it. We're defending a bloody pimp here. Surely that's message enough.

[woohoo]

thanks for being honest if there was more to it I'm sorry!

Why are you apologising, he banned someone without giving a reason then said if you don't like it piss off elsewhere. If there was something more to it then the colossal prick could have mentioned it rather than being a big drama queen.

[MrMarkyMark]

Whatchatalkingabout? People have been complaining about the lack of consistency for years. It's about the only thing that is consistent.

Some details of how it works.

We get a complaint. We look into it. If we feel it has merit we take action that we think is appropriate. If a number of people complain, then that obviously adds weight - but none of it is definitive. Pre-emptive action is often taken without complaints being received. Sometimes we discuss before taking action, other times not. All decisions are subjective.

And you could do no more, which is why I'm not really bothered if people think I've got it wrong. If enough people do, and they're people whose judgement I've come to respect, then it will be taken on board. That's why, unlike some places, we do allow moderation decisions to be discussed. And as for the insults - I think some people confuse me with someone who gives a damn.
I used to do that, but for various reasons I don't anymore. I also won't say if there is not more to it than that.

Firstly, I don't always agree with all NATs decisions, however he can be reasoned with, which is indeed very rare on most forums.

DA will get over it, being an agent, he has the hide of a Rhino

[woohoo]

I can't believe there's so much bed wetting taking place on behalf of a pimp. He should be banned periodically just for that.

Well at least there would be some logic behind the decision.

[vetran]

Whatchatalkingabout? People have been complaining about the lack of consistency for years. It's about the only thing that is consistent.

Some details of how it works.

We get a complaint. We look into it. If we feel it has merit we take action that we think is appropriate. If a number of people complain, then that obviously adds weight - but none of it is definitive. Pre-emptive action is often taken without complaints being received. Sometimes we discuss before taking action, other times not. All decisions are subjective.

And you could do no more, which is why I'm not really bothered if people think I've got it wrong. If enough people do, and they're people whose judgement I've come to respect, then it will be taken on board. That's why, unlike some places, we do allow moderation decisions to be discussed. And as for the insults - I think some people confuse me with someone who gives a damn.
I used to do that, but for various reasons I don't anymore. I also won't say if there is not more to it than that.

thanks for being honest if there was more to it I'm sorry!

[barrydidit]

I can't believe there's so much bed wetting taking place on behalf of a pimp. He should be banned periodically just for that.

[vetran]

No that is what you have based it on.

Like yesterday when I was arguing with you are assuming things that not everyone is seeing.



The moderators don't have to and as part of their job is being discrete they aren't allowed to.

how did I know it would be my fault! I could be sexist here but I will rise above it

If I can't see things, then I have to base my opinions on what I can see.

Your assumption I am clairvoyant and omnipresent is very flattering but despite what you & my wife believe I'm not psychic or a deity.

If I'm wrong tell me why or that its none of my business. Don't assume I know what is going on and get aggressive.

Other bannings have been accompanied by text such as 'and misbehaviour via private messages' which we all respect. I don't mind posting some general crud (I read the mail for Deity's sake) but sending offensive PMs isn't on.

If that was what was happening then sorry to hear that.

[LondonManc]

One question then NAT - why 7 days rather than 24 hours?

Seems very heavy-handed for the offence.

If it's because he's a pimp, fair enough. Please don't use that as your only get-out now I've suggested it though.