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Previously on "Brexit, Engxit, Wexit or Scexit?"

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    According to the Windy? Blair, with Chancellor Branson, perhaps.
    The comments were very supportive

    Apparently Gideon wants to be the financial advisor.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    and who are they going to vote for ?
    According to the Windy? Blair, with Chancellor Branson, perhaps.

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    I love tabloid journalism.

    Despite the Government detailing hundreds of times that we don't intend to fit an existing model, they keep churning it out.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    Fiendishly difficult. Fiendishly. Oh well. Of course, if they'd like to provide us with complete control over EU migration during the transition period, the Tory grassroots and most of the voters keeping May in office might be willing to listen. Then again...
    and who are they going to vote for ?

    UKIP

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7430456.html

    This should be reasonably straightforward since the institution of the EEA already exists and the UK would not have to invent it from scratch.

    This arrangement might last for a set period of time, perhaps a couple of years.

    Such a transition plan was recommended by the think tank Open Europe in August.

    Raoul Ruparel, the former head of Open Europe, is, perhaps significantly, now an adviser to the Brexit Secretary, David Davis.
    Last edited by BlasterBates; 21 November 2016, 21:52.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Would you care to edit that post any more times? I think you've covered most variations of possible content and L&F, barring, perhaps, the Iliad.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Fiendishly difficult. Fiendishly. Oh well. Of course, if they'd like to provide us with complete control over EU migration during the transition period, the Tory grassroots and most of the voters keeping May in office might be willing to listen. Then again...

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    You should take your own advice and listen very carefully to the actual words used, rather than the spin. It's certainly tremendously amusing to see the press hit overdrive on any morsel of information provided. Did you actually listen to the Q&A session at the CBI? Preventing a cliff edge includes, but is not limited to, informing Parliament and UK businesses about progress, in good time, as the negotiation proceeds.
    Listen more, project less.
    What would a 'transitional' Brexit deal for the UK be? | The Independent

    The Prime Minister signalled that officials are exploring a potential ‘transitional deal"
    such a deal is widely presumed to involve Britain leaving the EU, as planned, in 2019 but immediately entering a close trading relationship with the rest of the bloc, such as Norway has as part of the European Economic Area [EEA].
    Last edited by BlasterBates; 21 November 2016, 21:34.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    The "whooshing sound" you may have heard earlier was Mrs May throwing hard Brexit out of the window
    You should take your own advice and listen very carefully to the actual words used, rather than the spin. It's certainly tremendously amusing to see the press hit overdrive on any morsel of information provided. Did you actually listen to the Q&A session at the CBI? Preventing a cliff edge includes, but is not limited to, informing Parliament and UK businesses about progress, in good time, as the negotiation proceeds. May provided absolutely no concrete suggestion on a particular form of transitional "model", but it's patently obvious that some form of transition will be required, since we'll have ongoing commitments to joint activities that extend far beyond 2019 Again, you have a very vivid imagination. You hear "we want to avoid a cliff edge", and you instantly assume EEA and free movement. Listen more, project less.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
    Eh? You have a very vivid imagination. It's quite a leap from what I said to, I presume, your extrapolation of tens of thousands when we're unlikely to have left before 2019 What will be required is evidence of a visa scheme that's going to work, i.e. is properly calibrated. Of course it's going to reduce GDP. Doh! We've been far too focused on absolute GDP and too little on productivity and relative GDP.
    The "whooshing sound" you may have heard earlier was Mrs May throwing hard Brexit out of the window:

    The Prime Minister signalled that officials are exploring a potential ‘transitional deal’ which could see the UK retain elements of its current relations with the EU after Brexit, while a new trade agreement is hammered out.

    Ms May first hinted at a transitional deal after addressing business groups today, who have raised concerns about the uncertainty brought about by a sudden change in the UK’s relationship with Europe.
    Brexit: Theresa May risks Tory row after suggesting UK may still be tied to EU after 2019 | The Independent

    You don't seriously believe they have a plan do you ?

    ...and why does she have such a scarce resource looking at it if it isn't serious.



    that "transitional deal" she's talking about is a bit like a "temporary workaround" with which we're all so familiar

    Last edited by BlasterBates; 21 November 2016, 18:36.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Do you honestly believe the UK with it's huge debts can seriously afford to lose 250 thousand workers each year ?
    Eh? You have a very vivid imagination. It's quite a leap from what I said to, I presume, your extrapolation of tens of thousands when we're unlikely to have left before 2019 What will be required is evidence of a visa scheme that's going to work, i.e. is properly calibrated. Of course it's going to reduce GDP. Doh! We've been far too focused on absolute GDP and too little on productivity and relative GDP.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    Yes, but you will have forgotten what you did with them.
    that will be the coke

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    Yes, but you will have forgotten what you did with them.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    I will still be "earning" margins into my 70s
    Yes, but you will have forgotten what you did with them.

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    The workforce will shrink as more jobs become obsolete.

    Workers will work longer My Father & Father in law were both working in their mid seventies through choice.
    I will still be "earning" margins into my 70s

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    You don't seriously think she will achieve that by the next election ?

    250,000 people leave the workforce every year to retire and are not replaced. Do you honestly believe the UK with it's huge debts can seriously afford to lose 250 thousand workers each year ?

    Out of interest I checked my home town, where,as in the rest of the country the population has grown a few percent over the last 15 20 years or so. Guess what....the working population hasn't changed, the growth in the town's population is purely an increase in the number of pensioners. The town voted pretty strongly in favour of Brexit, but if they get their way, the pensioners will multiply and the working population will dwindle.

    Japan allows that to happen and is sitting on debt with over 200% of it's GDP. However unlike the UK, Japan can afford it because it has so much overseas investment funding it...

    Economic reality will screw up the government's plan to cut immigration. just like it did since 2010
    The workforce will shrink as more jobs become obsolete.

    Workers will work longer My Father & Father in law were both working in their mid seventies through choice.

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