Reply to: Did I miss the refugee children thread?

[SueEllen]

PFI=Bad

Run on University=Bad

Cleaning up council estates = bloody sensible they were cesspits and the poor people were stuck in a sea of crime & couldn't escape.

The cleaning up council estates includes removing well behaved tenants e.g. the elderly. However the badly behaved ones because they are always "vulnerable" will be able to find a home on them.

[vetran]

You mean like putting more money into public services but keeping it off the books by using PFI which was created by John Major? Making more university places to keep the young off the unemployment figures? Knocking down council estates and rebuilding them to gentify them? Keeping the union laws that Thatcher put in place?

PFI=Bad

Run on University=Bad

Cleaning up council estates = bloody sensible they were cesspits and the poor people were stuck in a sea of crime & couldn't escape.

[vetran]

This so called "Jungle" that the French are razing to the ground; isnt it just the latest incarnation of a previous refugee camp that was shut down?

In other words, isn't another one just going to pop up & the same old problems will continue?

None of the news I read seems to talk about this....

well every so often they clear it and the UK takes a few thousand ecomigrants to help, obviously we only take the ones named Benjamin Button. The politicians can't quite see why this is a bad idea.

The only fix is to declare we observe the original Dublin agreement and refuse anyone point blank who has passed through safe countries. We can take orphan children direct from the refugee camps to do our part.

[DodgyAgent]

You mean like putting more money into public services but keeping it off the books by using PFI which was created by John Major? Making more university places to keep the young off the unemployment figures? Knocking down council estates and rebuilding them to gentify them? Keeping the union laws that Thatcher put in place?

Aaaaahhh the Good old days

[Big Blue Plymouth]

This so called "Jungle" that the French are razing to the ground; isnt it just the latest incarnation of a previous refugee camp that was shut down?

In other words, isn't another one just going to pop up & the same old problems will continue?

None of the news I read seems to talk about this....

[SueEllen]

Yes indeed - and they made themselves electable when they embraced free market economics but this gave them the cover to slip their quasi Marxist social engineering programme in under the radar.

A centrist labour party is far more dangerous than the current incarnation because people will actually vote for them & while they are trumpeting about things that make them look more right wing, you can bet your bottom dollar they'd still be up to their loony left skullduggery while everyone is looking the other way.

You mean like putting more money into public services but keeping it off the books by using PFI which was created by John Major? Making more university places to keep the young off the unemployment figures? Knocking down council estates and rebuilding them to gentify them? Keeping the union laws that Thatcher put in place?

[Big Blue Plymouth]

Blair, Brown, Mandleslime, Balls et all and Milliband senior openly admit they took Labour to the centre e.g. they are centralists.

Why do you think the Corbynists call Blairites right wing?

Yes indeed - and they made themselves electable when they embraced free market economics but this gave them the cover to slip their quasi Marxist social engineering programme in under the radar.

A centrist labour party is far more dangerous than the current incarnation because people will actually vote for them & while they are trumpeting about things that make them look more right wing, you can bet your bottom dollar they'd still be up to their loony left skullduggery while everyone is looking the other way.

[SueEllen]

UKIP should be libertarian right.
Respect are Communist-Islamists. Should be hardline authoritarian left.
2015 era Conservatives . Not right wing more like Blair-like centre-ists
Milibands Labour were 'right wing' ??
Greens are Communists with a environmental front. Should be hardline authoritarian left
BNP and SNP. Left wing national socialists.

Less of a compass more of a random board to throw darts at!

I'm glad you read the manifestos of those parties like the creators of such charts do. Or do you think like you they make these things up on their prejudices?

[darmstadt]

IS, like most fanatical organisations are extreme right wing, not left. They believe that only they are correct, that anyone who believes in tolerance is wrong.
They do not have any social/socialist ideals at all.

A bit like recruitment agents then...

[WTFH]

It impossible to have Communist-Islamists. No branch of islam allows communisum, penalty is death.

IS, like most fanatical organisations are extreme right wing, not left. They believe that only they are correct, that anyone who believes in tolerance is wrong.
They do not have any social/socialist ideals at all.

[Paddy]

UKIP should be libertarian right.
Respect are Communist-Islamists. Should be hardline authoritarian left.
2015 era Conservatives . Not right wing more like Blair-like centre-ists
Milibands Labour were 'right wing' ??
Greens are Communists with a environmental front. Should be hardline authoritarian left
BNP and SNP. Left wing national socialists.

Less of a compass more of a random board to throw darts at!

It impossible to have Communist-Islamists. No branch of islam allows communisum, penalty is death.

[vetran]

oh dear

First of the Calais Jungle 'child migrants' proven to be an ADULT by fingerprints | Daily Mail Online

First they built the Great Wall of Calais... Now it’s time for the Creased Curtain of Croydon! Giant screen put up outside migrant reception centre to shield new arrivals from the cameras
Home Office officials have erected a 15ft fabric wall as dozens more child migrants arrive in the UK
Screen hoisted up on scaffolding came 24 hours after new arrivals covered their heads with blankets
Group of children tell MailOnline of their excitement as they leave Calais for Britain by bus today
First 'child migrant' found to be over 18 after his fingerprints were checked but he could still stay in Britain

[NotAllThere]

UKIP should be libertarian right.
Respect are Communist-Islamists. Should be hardline authoritarian left.
2015 era Conservatives . Not right wing more like Blair-like centre-ists
Milibands Labour were 'right wing' ??
Greens are Communists with a environmental front. Should be hardline authoritarian left
BNP and SNP. Left wing national socialists.

Less of a compass more of a random board to throw darts at!

They at least publish their methodology. You just spout your unsubstantiated opinion.

[Flashman]

According to www.politicalcompass.org this is the political complexion during the 2015 General Election,

UKIP should be libertarian right.
Respect are Communist-Islamists. Should be hardline authoritarian left.
2015 era Conservatives . Not right wing more like Blair-like centre-ists
Milibands Labour were 'right wing' ??
Greens are Communists with a environmental front. Should be hardline authoritarian left
BNP and SNP. Left wing national socialists.

Less of a compass more of a random board to throw darts at!

[vetran]

According to www.politicalcompass.org this is the political complexion during the 2015 General Election,

George Galloway's outside earnings third highest of all MPs (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...icola-sturgeon


Though most would consider left of the lib dems pretty left wing.

Respect etc are a bunch of lefty extremists.