Reply to: Anyone else thinking of moving abroad?

[CretinWatcher]

Chips?

I'm a Northerner working in Hampshire, that's enough to give anyone a chip or two.

Glad I got a bite from you though, softy!

Yeah keep being passive aggressive, that'll help your psychological condition.

[darmstadt]

We were planning on retiring to France in 2 or 3 years time. The missus and I voted leave because it was the right thing to do even though it meant we might well have stuffed our own plans.

We are currently "waiting to see what will happen".

Hope you'll tell all your new neighbours that you voted leave

[Lockhouse]

We were planning on retiring to France in 2 or 3 years time. The missus and I voted leave because it was the right thing to do even though it meant we might well have stuffed our own plans.

We are currently "waiting to see what will happen".

[NotAllThere]

^
This.
My tax position would be complicated since I would have British rental income and work income from another Euroland country. Not at all sure how that would work. Thats what I pay an accountant for, though

So long as you are permanently resident in one country, the income from anywhere else is simply taxed in that country. There are people here working remotely for their employer in another country. They get paid gross and handle the deductions themselves - there's even a German word for doing this.

I work remotely for a UK based company through my GmbH. The GmbH pays no tax in the UK at all. It's all paid here.

Hehe! Seriously, how much money would one need to be allowed to live in Switzerland and eventually claim Swiss citizenship?

You need to be able to support yourself and any dependants. It now takes 10 years of residency to apply for Swiss citizenship. The process usually takes 12 years. You will need a certificate for B1 level in local language (Standard German/French/Italian - depending on the language of the Canton). You will be interviewed by the worthies of your community (the town council), as that is where your citizenship will be based. Costs a ~4000CHF. In communities near cities, it's usually not a problem. In the villages in the mountains or in the central cantons, it can be a bit more difficult.

Since most of my income is CHF and I've been able to command quite high fees by Swiss standards, I don't find the cost of living too bad. Even effectively funding 6 adults at home - my wife, my three kids and one daughter-in-law.

[Churchill]

Is it not having a degree that made you have 2 massive chips on your shoulder or was that already a present character trait?

Just asking, like.

Chips?

I'm a Northerner working in Hampshire, that's enough to give anyone a chip or two.

Glad I got a bite from you though, softy!

[CretinWatcher]

If it's so much better why not move regardless of Brexit?

I quite like living in Surrey, but not forever.
Was planning to move in 10 years or so, but that option may be gone then, or be much harder, who knows.
Plus quite a lot of my contracts come from Euroland, will the UK ones dry up as businesses move - again who knows.
I dunno, I would rather be part of a larger market than a closed smaller one.
So that's why Brexit changes things for me, it's limiting.

[CretinWatcher]

Was it living in CH that made you a twat or was that already present character trait?

Just asking, like.

Is it not having a degree that made you have 2 massive chips on your shoulder or was that already a present character trait?

Just asking, like.

[darmstadt]

Think it's 12 bars of gold to become a Swiss citizen.

FTFY

[d000hg]

So makes sense to move now to somewhere with better weather and a better health system while you still can.

If it's so much better why not move regardless of Brexit?

[stek]

Think it's 12 years to become a Swiss citizen.

[Churchill]

Good luck.
Honestly I wouldn't bother with German, everyone speaks English.
Learn it when you're there - get a German flatmate or something.

Many moons ago I went to live in Switzerland not knowing a soul.
It was hard at first but turned out to be one of the times of my life in the end and made a few friends who I'm still in touch with.
Also gave me a huge boost in self-confidence.
Now I don't bat an eyelid at working abroad - although it is harder with family.

Was it living in CH that made you a twat or was that already present character trait?

Just asking, like.

[CompulsiveArsonist]

I'm interested in going to Canada although I haven't looked into it too deeply. My Plan B is to found a tech start-up, get a bazillion dollars in funding and then go titsup.

[CretinWatcher]

Thanks. MTFU is good advice.

This has got me looking again at doing a 1 week language course in Berlin, or elsewhere in Germany. Learn some more German and get to look around with some like minded people for not too much. Sounds like a plan.

Good luck.
Honestly I wouldn't bother with German, everyone speaks English.
Learn it when you're there - get a German flatmate or something.

Many moons ago I went to live in Switzerland not knowing a soul.
It was hard at first but turned out to be one of the times of my life in the end and made a few friends who I'm still in touch with.
Also gave me a huge boost in self-confidence.
Now I don't bat an eyelid at working abroad - although it is harder with family.

[VectraMan]

I think we're all going to have to "MTFU" and "play the game" now, if only to escape

Thanks. MTFU is good advice.

This has got me looking again at doing a 1 week language course in Berlin, or elsewhere in Germany. Learn some more German and get to look around with some like minded people for not too much. Sounds like a plan.

[CretinWatcher]

Hehe! Seriously, how much money would one need to be allowed to live in Switzerland and eventually claim Swiss citizenship?

Or is it also partly an age thing and they're less likely to favour old timers looking to retire there (or more likely perhaps)?
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My brother works in CH.
There's no minimum income required to live there just evidence that you have a job and can support yourself AFAIK.
Rents and mandatory family health insurance are quite high - the latter possibly because he's quite old.
As for citizenship, its quite hard, not sure of the requirements but you have to have lived there for a long time, show you have "integrated" and speak the language, which is virtually impossible if its Swiss Deutche. AFAIK.
NAT will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong.