Reply to: Whatever Happened to Tyke Merc?

[PurpleGorilla]

LOL

[NotAllThere]

[shaunbhoy]

Dats racist.

Yoghurtophobic?

[PurpleGorilla]

Whatever Happened to Tyke Merc?

Not when the "others" whose opinions might matter to me are a bunch of sarcastic fookers. Under those circumstances it does no harm to my reputation at all. Particularly when the intended target is a thin yoghurt like you.




No it doesn't.
But it does illuminate the fact that as well as being incredibly boring, not to mention slow, you are also devoid of any redeeming sense of humour.

HTH

[northernladuk]

Not when the "others" whose opinions might matter to me are a bunch of sarcastic fookers. Under those circumstances it does no harm to my reputation at all. Particularly when the intended target is a thin yoghurt like you.

Dats racist.

[shaunbhoy]

If you think using derogatory insults improves the opinion others have of you, you are mistaken. It does the exact opposite.

Not when the "others" whose opinions might matter to me are a bunch of sarcastic fookers. Under those circumstances it does no harm to my reputation at all. Particularly when the intended target is a thin yoghurt like you.

It shows you are incapable of putting forwards a decent argument without resulting to insults. If you do not respect me, others will not respect you.

No it doesn't.
But it does illuminate the fact that as well as being incredibly boring, not to mention slow, you are also devoid of any redeeming sense of humour.

HTH

[NotAllThere]

I'm dubious about blanket bans on specific words. There could be a context in which any word might be used acceptably, whether for comedic effect or otherwise. If I were to suggest banning all use of "kaffir" I'd have to also condemn Tom Sharpe's books for using the word scores of times; yet I think the books are both hilarious and damning satires on apartheid, which achieve that powerful effect because of the use of such terms.

TLDR: it's complicated

I entirely agree. And within context - like the Tay thread - it's fine. I recently used the word n*gg*r (un-blue-pencilled) in a facebook discussion on racism. No-one was upset. (I asterise it here for search engine reasons).

Certainly not. Particularly in the context of PG. "Thick Pillock" would be understating the situation to a phenomenal degree.

Respect!

[PurpleGorilla]

Whatever Happened to Tyke Merc?

Certainly not. Particularly in the context of PG. "Thick Pillock" would be understating the situation to a phenomenal degree.

If you think using derogatory insults improves the opinion others have of you, you are mistaken. It does the exact opposite. It shows you are incapable of putting forwards a decent argument without resulting to insults. If you do not respect me, others will not respect you.

[NotAllThere]

Right, I've removed the offending post and if I find the word being used in an offensive way again, I'll be glad to take action.

I'm surprised though, if it is so offensive, that it wasn't reported. None of the moderators, nor admin, are on the site 24x7, and so do not view everything that is posted. Especially on a busy day.

Bunch of glockish dollymops.

[BrilloPad]

I'm dubious about blanket bans on specific words.

I would like a ban on one word. Worse than ******, *****, ******* and *** put together.

s4sguru.

[NickFitz]

So in your opinion should it be ruled as an unacceptable epithet in CUK? Even when used in an obviously ironic fashion?

I'm dubious about blanket bans on specific words. There could be a context in which any word might be used acceptably, whether for comedic effect or otherwise. If I were to suggest banning all use of "kaffir" I'd have to also condemn Tom Sharpe's books for using the word scores of times; yet I think the books are both hilarious and damning satires on apartheid, which achieve that powerful effect because of the use of such terms.

TLDR: it's complicated

[shaunbhoy]

I'm sure you'd be offended if I called you a thick pillock who is trying to stir things up, because he's still rankling over his last ban - but that isn't grounds for the terms "thick" or "pillock" to be ruled unacceptable.

Certainly not. Particularly in the context of PG. "Thick Pillock" would be understating the situation to a phenomenal degree.

[PurpleGorilla]

Would you have been offended yesterday before the meaning and use was explained to you? Would the police prosecute someone who used it in a public place?

In any case, the fact that you find it offensive does not mean it is term of racial abuse that is unacceptable. I'm sure you'd be offended if I called you a thick pillock who is trying to stir things up, because he's still rankling over his last ban - but that isn't grounds for the terms "thick" or "pillock" to be ruled unacceptable.

No I have found the term offensive for a while. It's used by Islamic extremists as a derogatory term, offensive, the 'non-believer' etc and usually is followed by threats. In that instance it would come into inciting racial hatred and the police would get interested, yes. The term is meant to offend. Both in SA and UK.

This has nothing to do with my ban and everything to do with your myopic views.

[NotAllThere]

The first time I encountered the word "kaffir" was in Tom Sharpe's 1970s novels set in South Africa in the days of apartheid, Riotous Assembly and Indecent Exposure, where it's used as a term of abuse for black Africans by the South African Police and other white characters. I don't recall ever encountering it in a context where it wasn't being used as a racist term.

So in your opinion should it be ruled as an unacceptable epithet in CUK? Even when used in an obviously ironic fashion?

[NotAllThere]

Me. You can add me to the group of persons who finds the term offensive.

It is offensive to me, because it is intended to offend me.

Would you have been offended yesterday before the meaning and use was explained to you? Would the police prosecute someone who used it in a public place?

In any case, the fact that you find it offensive does not mean it is term of racial abuse that is unacceptable. I'm sure you'd be offended if I called you a thick pillock who is trying to stir things up, because he's still rankling over his last ban - but that isn't grounds for the terms "thick" or "pillock" to be ruled unacceptable.