Reply to: NUS - gay men are no longer oppressed enough

[darmstadt]

Here's another link

2016-01-05 Safe space hand wringers are attacking academic freedom – we must fight back

As one example, mentioned in that article, some student union banned students from wearing sombreros, on the grounds it was racist and disparaging to Mexicans.

Couldn't see that mentioned in the article but I remember that and it wasn't quite what you said. In fact the NUS banned a banned a Mexican restaurant from handing out sombreros to students at a freshers ball.

Union officials took them away from new students, according to reports, and told restaurant workers the hats breached a policy forbidding stallholders from handing out materials including “discriminatory or stereotypical imagery”.

They were quickly accused of hypocrisy, with observers pointing out that the union encourages students to appropriate African American cultural tropes at its annual “Pimp My Barrow” event.

One must get one's facts correct otherwise one will be accused of being Boris Johnson...

[darmstadt]

The difference between the right and the left is that the right do not try and pretend to be virtuous

That must make me right then because I don't give a tulip either...

[OwlHoot]

Have you tried reading the verse from the New Testament I linked to? ...

Jesus was basically telling his disciples not to worry about the poor at that point, as they could do that any time.

Wasn't the only occasion he prioritised himself and his mission over conventional niceties, for example in Matthew ch 8 vv 21, 22 :

(21) And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father (22) But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

[Zero Liability]

They don't like Milo and his love for Daddy Trump.

Yup, and the fact that a lot of bi/gay men don't kowtow to their ideology.

[d000hg]

Officially But OK, thanks for the correction.

[barrydidit]

And we had conscription. They were not storming the beaches to protect our freedom, they were forced to fight at the risk of being shot or imprisoned. It was their job.

You're thinking of WW1.

During World War Two, the only military offence which carried the death sentence was Mutiny.

Linky

[d000hg]

They would have had a pretty easy job of it, given that the Germans had been driven out of northern France by late 1944

Probably quite a lot of sharp things lying about still, I don't think the French beach cleaning standards were great back then.

[Forgotmylogin]

Have you tried reading the verse from the New Testament I linked to? Or do you think that one can sincerely hold a belief while deliberately enacting policies that directly contravene the tenets of that belief?

So you're not mocking him for having religious beliefs (if he does, I don't know), you're simply in disagreement over political policies?

The Conservative argument is that their policies will benefit the poor in the mid- to long-term. Labour policies seem to be about short-term handing out of cash to everyone.

Besides, that out of context verse is in reference to his followers (with Judas leading the objections) trying to stop Mary from anointing him. He was saying "You can care for the poor anytime, but you don't have long to care for me before I'll be gone".

So what's your point?

[NotAllThere]

You could KUATB though.

Merged.

In 2016 we have a very small number of 18,19 and 20 demanding safe spaces where they will not hear words they may find hurtful or offensive

FTFY. Unfortunately that very small number of kids gain positions of power within their bubble, because no one else is interested in student politics. Or they're too busy doing proper degrees that require more than a couple of hours work a week.

[NickFitz]

In 1945 18,19 and 20 year olds were storming the beaches of northern France to fight and die for the freedom of the countries they lived in.

They would have had a pretty easy job of it, given that the Germans had been driven out of northern France by late 1944

[d000hg]

In 1945 18,19 and 20 year olds were storming the beaches of northern France to fight and die for the freedom of the countries they lived in.

In 2016 we have 18,19 and 20 demanding safe spaces where they will not hear words they may find hurtful or offensive

And we wonder why the country is going down the pan.

Yes, turning our youths into callous broken killers is what we need. A bit like ISIS?

And we had conscription. They were not storming the beaches to protect our freedom, they were forced to fight at the risk of being shot or imprisoned. It was their job.

[NickFitz]

How is someone attending a religious service "pretending to be virtuous".

Or you another of those who will attack someone simply for holding a belief that you do not?

Have you tried reading the verse from the New Testament I linked to? Or do you think that one can sincerely hold a belief while deliberately enacting policies that directly contravene the tenets of that belief?

[Forgotmylogin]

Mark 14:7

How is someone attending a religious service "pretending to be virtuous".

Or you another of those who will attack someone simply for holding a belief that you do not?

[OwlHoot]

Cameron doesn't count as being to the right (or, when it comes to the EU, in the right )

[NickFitz]

The difference between the right and the left is that the right do not try and pretend to be virtuous

Mark 14:7