Anorexia and narcissism

[DimPrawn]

Can we please show sensitivity when talking about eating disorders.

MF still doesn't like to think back on that time in his life.

[vetran]

Bad parenting

don't think so. Hence the mainly & comparison to PTSD.

Some people go through the horrors of war and they manage to compartmentalise them and others are consumed by them. I don't see why Anorexia shouldn't be the same.

And here is research to prove it

Anorexic Twins - Eating Disorders and Multiples

In fact, a 2014 study found that in a survey of more than two million individuals, children that were a multiple were 33 percent more likely to be diagnosed with an eating disorder.

So it could be parenting.

however

Their research showed that pairs of identical (or monozygotic) twins had a much higher incidence of disorders than fraternal twins. Because identical twins share a genetic link (they have the same DNA), scientists made the connection that heredity plays a role in the disorder.

so its Genetic as well.

[SueEllen]

As I said bad parenting

You obviously had bad parenting.

Have you heard of Karen Carpenter, Princess Diana, Nadia Comaneci, Nancy Kerrigan, Heidi Guenther and Richard Dunwoody?

[DodgyAgent]

Come on Dodgy, we've told you before about posting other peoples opinions as your own without actually checking the facts first.

Last line of the article is simply wrong and invalidates the entirety of the rest of the argument.



Journal of Eating Disorders



Brazilian Journal of Psychiatry


Principles of Gender Specific Medicine Vol 2.

As I said bad parenting

[DaveB]

Come on Dodgy, we've told you before about posting other peoples opinions as your own without actually checking the facts first.

Last line of the article is simply wrong and invalidates the entirety of the rest of the argument.

of a primarily middle-class illness, which is of course what anorexia is.

Journal of Eating Disorders

In addition to informing community prevalence, epidemiologic
surveys can inform the socio-demographic
distribution of eating disorders free from the selection
bias inherent in clinic samples, for example, access and
availability of care [10]. Sex, age and socio-economic
status are particular demographic correlates whose rates
have been thought to vary across eating disorder diagnostic
groups [10] with aetiologic and health care provision
import. For example the sex bias towards women has been
thought to be relevant to greater social pressures on
women to be thin, exemplified in the book “Fat is a feminist
issue” [23]. Others have relevance to access to care. For
example, limited financial capacity to pay for health care
and in men embarrassment with having a perceived
“female” problem are important barriers to seeking help
[24,25] and the misperceptions that eating disorders are
uncommon in lower socio economic groups or men may
thereby contribute to deficits in health care provision to
these groups.

Brazilian Journal of Psychiatry

CONCLUSION: Patients with anorexia nervosa revealed a high prevalence of affect regulation deficits regardless of their weight, duration of the disease, age and socioeconomic status. Therapy should focus on a systematic intervention in the domain of emotional regulation.

Principles of Gender Specific Medicine Vol 2.

Gender and Clinical Presentation

There exist similarities and differences between male and female anorexics in the presentation of the disorder. Several studies [15,16] found no significant differences by gender on the diagnostic features of the disorder, average age of onset of illness, age at first treatment and number of treatments, duration of illness, and sociodemographic characteristics such as familial mental illness, socioeconomic status and birth order.

[Chuck]

I don't suppose anybody expects any kind of clarity of thought or argument from Rentagob Rod.

Why would he? It's his job to wind people up and say things that some people find offensive. I doubt he even believes half of what he writes, it's just bait.

[NickFitz]

You can also tell when a public figure has said something that is utter bollocks by "the abject apology and recantation which arrives a day or two later". But I don't suppose anybody expects any kind of clarity of thought or argument from Rentagob Rod.

[DodgyAgent]

It is mainly a first world problem but

Bad parenting

[SueEllen]

It is mainly a first world problem but like stress & alchoholism its not a simple fix and creates a significant physical effect.

Mainly but not always.

One of the issues with mental health problems they are hardly ever researched in the developing world.

I did read one study years ago about anorexia in Ghana in a place with adequate food. Plus in the case of anorexia if you are in a starvation situation you would be one of the first ones dead and buried due to not having any body fat, in other words you would have done the Darwinian thing and died out.

There are also information about alcoholism and drug addiction in many developing countries but it's not in depth research.

[vetran]

It is mainly a first world problem but like stress & alchoholism its not a simple fix and creates a significant physical effect.

Yes everyone afflicted by it should just pull themselves out of such a funk, bunch of weaklings what what. What is your take on PTSD?

[BrilloPad]

So the reason you never apologize for anything is that you talk bollux?

[DodgyAgent]

Why Joan Bakewell must be right about anorexia » The Spectator

I like Rod Liddle's take

You can always tell when a public figure has said something with the ring of truth about it by the abject apology and recantation which arrives a day or two later. By and large, the greater the truth, the more abject the apology. Often there is a sort of partial non-apology apology first: I’m sorry if I upset anyone, but I broadly stand by what I said, even if my wording was perhaps a little awkward. That, however, won’t do — by now the hounds of hell are howling at the back door. Social media is beside itself, wrapped up in its moronic inferno, the cybersphere splenetic with self-righteous outrage.

People who feel themselves to be a victim of this truth are the first to go berserk, then the multifarious groups who depend for their living on giving succour to one another’s victimhood get in on the act — charities, academics, specialists and so on. Witless liberals in the media start writing damning criticisms of the truth and the person who was stupid enough to tell the truth. Sooner or later even that cornucopia of incessant whining, Radio 4’s You and Yours programme, will have got in on the act.

By now there will have been the properly abject apology from the truth-sayer, all the more abject if it is someone regarded as being otherwise politically correct. But it may be too late. Already the truth-sayer’s employers are looking closely at his or her contract. The universities or quangos where the truth-sayer holds honorary titles or non-executive directorships are urgently convening meetings to discuss what this foul besom has said and what can be done about it to quieten the clamouring mentalist hordes out there. Sometimes — quite often — the police get involved. There is nothing more damaging to a career than telling an unfortunate truth. Even if it is only a partial truth.

So it is with the thinking man’s crumpet, Baroness (Joan) Bakewell. Poor Joan. She delivered herself of one or two opinions about anorexia nervosa, which was probably an unwise thing to do. There is nothing more likely to send liberals on the internet into a frenzy than to question the orthodox shibboleths of a primarily middle-class illness, which is of course what anorexia is.