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Previously on "Exam Grades not comparable to 50 years ago"

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  • gables
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Not even those. It's higher up than that.

    Wanting a system where everyone is at least of a certain standard is all well and good but some kids are just plain thick and you also stifle the elite by concentrating on making sure that your F and U grade students get up to an E or D. 100 IQ is the average for a reason. For all the bright people out there, there has to be a bell-curve distribution of people balancing them out. Others may simply not have the aptitude for exams.

    We're crying out for skilled tradespeople but Bliar and Brown insisted that a high percentage should go to uni. On balance, the Tories upgraded polytechnics to universities, diluting the quality of graduates by default. While some employers may recognise the traditional red bricks, others just see a graduate then moan that Dave and his two E grade A-levels in media and sports science isn't up to the job.

    We're sorting people later in life, at which point we've already invested too much money in their failed education when they could already have been showing promise as an apprentice. You shouldn't be allowed to college without 5 A-Cs; YTS should be re-introduced for those who are ambitious but not as smart to give the a vocational qualification of some sort.
    Way better said than I could, I'll admit my answer was lazy.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by gables View Post
    Yes, those that set the curriculum, teach it and set the exams
    Not even those. It's higher up than that.

    Wanting a system where everyone is at least of a certain standard is all well and good but some kids are just plain thick and you also stifle the elite by concentrating on making sure that your F and U grade students get up to an E or D. 100 IQ is the average for a reason. For all the bright people out there, there has to be a bell-curve distribution of people balancing them out. Others may simply not have the aptitude for exams.

    We're crying out for skilled tradespeople but Bliar and Brown insisted that a high percentage should go to uni. On balance, the Tories upgraded polytechnics to universities, diluting the quality of graduates by default. While some employers may recognise the traditional red bricks, others just see a graduate then moan that Dave and his two E grade A-levels in media and sports science isn't up to the job.

    We're sorting people later in life, at which point we've already invested too much money in their failed education when they could already have been showing promise as an apprentice. You shouldn't be allowed to college without 5 A-Cs; YTS should be re-introduced for those who are ambitious but not as smart to give the a vocational qualification of some sort.

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  • gables
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Not the kids fault.
    Indeed, they can only sit what has been set

    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Does it have to be the fault of someone?
    Yes, those that set the curriculum, teach it and set the exams

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  • mudskipper
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    Possibly true, but today's kids are also educated in skillz wot we wozn't. e.g public speaking, presentation, how to shoot up etc.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Does it have to be the fault of someone?


    Everything has to be the fault of someone because no one takes responsibility any more.


    (looney right wing ambulance chasers have seen to that)

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Does it have to be the fault of someone?
    yes.

    If standards fall where you have a standards board then necessarily the Board has failed.

    If we stay in the EU (or even if we don't) I would like to see our children being educated to an internationally recognised standard that people trust that used to be O levels.Now I think the only way to pull it back is to sign everyone up for the International Baccalaureate. That would make the teachers sweat.
    Last edited by vetran; 23 February 2016, 09:39.

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  • Troll
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    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Does it have to be the fault of someone?
    Tulip always happens with the best intentions of someone

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    Loony left wing edumakation policies?
    Does it have to be the fault of someone?

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  • Troll
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Not the kids fault.
    Loony left wing edumakation policies?

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  • SueEllen
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    Not the kids fault.

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  • vetran
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    Don't tell Darmy & co they might have to be nice to UKIPers

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  • FatLazyContractor
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    All ye baby boomers , feck off from CUK

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  • Troll
    started a topic Exam Grades not comparable to 50 years ago

    Exam Grades not comparable to 50 years ago

    It explains a lot when every day I am presented reports from semi illiterate subordinates, full of basic mathematical & grammatical errors

    Under 50? ... then u is fick

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