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Previously on "Government to ban procurement boycotts on Ethical or Moral grounds."

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  • NigelJK
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    I voted for my councillor
    Spot the fact that this is a local election and it's by ward, the Majority in the council may be a different flavour of spin.

    BTW in a General Election you should vote for the MP who you feel is best for your constituency, not a 'party' you'd like to lead the Government.

    HTH BIBID

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    So? The issue of boycotting products wasn't part of any manifesto - I voted for my councillor to best serve my interests and those of the community, not to be a part of a regime as corrupt as the one that they would be expressing mock offence at. That said, we've got a Labour council so we're screwed anyway. More obsessed with flower beds looking nice than roads not having potholes.
    Then don't vote for them next time, simples.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Councils are elected by local constituents and I'd say those elections are more democratic than General Election where people vote for the party, or more like for party leader.
    So? The issue of boycotting products wasn't part of any manifesto - I voted for my councillor to best serve my interests and those of the community, not to be a part of a regime as corrupt as the one that they would be expressing mock offence at. That said, we've got a Labour council so we're screwed anyway. More obsessed with flower beds looking nice than roads not having potholes.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    I disagree. Why should councils get to decide what's in their own personal best interests rather than those of their constituents?
    Councils are elected by local constituents and I'd say those elections are more democratic than General Election where people vote for the party, or more like for party leader.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    No, that's not true - Unis don't put any restrictions on jews wishing to study in Unis (that would be race discrimination which would be illegal in UK), what they do is limiting foreign contacts with Unis in Israel on moral/ethical grounds - they don't do it because there are jews there, they do it because of their view of Israeli policies, specifically related to expanding settlements.

    Govt should STFU on this one and many other things too.
    I disagree. Why should councils get to decide what's in their own personal best interests rather than those of their constituents?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    The equivalent would be tube drivers not allowing Jews on. HTH.
    No, that's not true - Unis don't put any restrictions on jews wishing to study in Unis (that would be race discrimination which would be illegal in UK), what they do is limiting foreign contacts with Unis in Israel on moral/ethical grounds - they don't do it because there are jews there, they do it because of their view of Israeli policies, specifically related to expanding settlements.

    Govt should STFU on this one and many other things too.
    Last edited by AtW; 16 February 2016, 13:14.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Unions can call Tube strikes in London, I'd say it's far more relevant to UK than some unis deciding to boycott Israel on moral/ethical grounds.

    Unis historically being doings things like this - being anti Vietnam war and such, pretty pathetic to see UK Govt being concerned about tiny boycott.
    The equivalent would be tube drivers not allowing Jews on. HTH.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Fine. But this isn't about individuals. It's about the leaders of publicly funded organisations forcing their political ideals boycotts on the people using or working with/for those organisations. I suppose councils are voted in, so at least in theory they represent the general public.
    Unions can call Tube strikes in London, I'd say it's far more relevant to UK than some unis deciding to boycott Israel on moral/ethical grounds.

    Unis historically being doings things like this - being anti Vietnam war and such, pretty pathetic to see UK Govt being concerned about tiny boycott.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    ..., if some individuals want to impose their own, especially on moral grounds then they are entitled to it - nobody is forced to follow them.
    Fine. But this isn't about individuals. It's about the leaders of publicly funded organisations forcing their political ideals boycotts on the people using or working with/for those organisations. I suppose councils are voted in, so at least in theory they represent the general public.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Quite right, they have been elected to deal with issues like this. Local government has been elected to deal with local issues. Did any of your councillors state their views on boycotting Israel when canvassing for votes?
    No cos I hid from them.

    I thought they were the local Jehovah's Witnesses....
    Last edited by SueEllen; 15 February 2016, 21:38.

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  • AtW
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    I think everybody should boycott the Govt on Ethical and Moral grounds.

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  • xoggoth
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    The government is saying that boycotts and sanctions will be decided at government level only
    Quite right, they have been elected to deal with issues like this. Local government has been elected to deal with local issues. Did any of your councillors state their views on boycotting Israel when canvassing for votes?

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
    The very same yup, I know that tell it to the lefties who want to ignore the truth as always
    I figured you knew it, it just needed putting out there.

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  • MicrosoftBob
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    That would be the Israel that was inhabited by Jews for many centuries before Islam was even a religion?
    The very same yup, I know that tell it to the lefties who want to ignore the truth as always

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
    That's because lefties hate Israel whilst they promote their ROP agenda, good to see them get some kick back for once
    That would be the Israel that was inhabited by Jews for many centuries before Islam was even a religion?

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