Reply to: Are you supporting Air strikes against "IS" in Syria ?

[darmstadt]

I'm all for it, my shares in weapons manufacturers are going to skyrocket

Plan B going according to plan



Another one to invest in as well:

“Chemring is well-positioned to benefit from any sustained increase in demand as a result of the conflict in the Middle East. Furthermore, although there has been a slowdown in the West’s military spending, it is important not to forget that in both Asia and the Middle East there are signs that military spending is on the increase and Chemring will be looking to take advantage of this trend wherever possible.”

[SpontaneousOrder]

Isn't this something that is a)quite important to find out b)not that difficult? I have no concept of what an oil field looks like but you'd think with the surveillance and intelligence forces around the globe, this should be an achievable priority without having to blow up the oilfield.

Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov Eyes Measures to Close Turkish-Syrian Border; Says Closure Will Curb Terrorists in Syria; Notes Hollande Told Obama Border Question Is Key to Stopping Flow of Militants and Jihadi Financing; Jarablus Corridor Now at Ce

[stek]

Putin is a liar.

And a plagiarist.

[darmstadt]

Quite surprised no-one's posted this yet:

tulip, isn't it?

[stek]

Putin is a liar.

And a plagiarist.

[AtW]

Turkey according to Putin.

Vladimir Putin: Turkey's Leaders Are 'Stuffing Pockets' With ISIS Oil Cash - NBC News

He may not be wrong.

PS Or more exactly Erdogan and his family. That b* is taking Turkey backwards.

Putin is a liar.

[AtW]

I hadn't considered this before but it begs the question who are they selling the oil too? Why is anyone buying it from them?

Assad buys it. He has got lots of Soviet tanks/APCs - all consume a lot of fuel and he got nowhere else to get it from.

[d000hg]

Isn't this something that is a)quite important to find out b)not that difficult? I have no concept of what an oil field looks like but you'd think with the surveillance and intelligence forces around the globe, this should be an achievable priority without having to blow up the oilfield.

[xoggoth]

who are they selling the oil too?

Turkey according to Putin.

Vladimir Putin: Turkey's Leaders Are 'Stuffing Pockets' With ISIS Oil Cash - NBC News

He may not be wrong.

PS Or more exactly Erdogan and his family. That b* is taking Turkey backwards.

[d000hg]

On a serious note the strikes on IS-controlled airfields are discussed as trying to cut off IS revenue sources. I hadn't considered this before but it begs the question who are they selling the oil too? Why is anyone buying it from them?

[d000hg]

"Military intervention" is a pretty wide ranging thing. Who you're targeting, how you do it, what your motivations are and your prior relationships and history all play a huge part as your linked article claims.

But more generally, taking a soundbite out of a speech can very easily be twisted and I fear that's the nor these days. Don't bother to see what the context was or anything, just scour the transcript for a phrase which you can parrot.

As a trite example if I say "It's not true that I hate gay people" you could quote that as:

...I hate gay people

[LondonManc]

Lose-lose situation. Condemned whether you conform and bomb and as a result radicalize onlooking susceptible muzzers from the rest of the world or stand back and let IS increase in power/consolidate their caliphate.

The simple option seems to be boots on the ground - remove their territory and there is no caliphate and no concept of an IS. Is it really that simple though? I doubt it. With IS gone, you're then back to Russian-backed Assad vs any Syrian that's not with Assad.

[darmstadt]

Hurrah, the FaceBook "share before you think" memes are reaching CUK now.

Here's another one, even more vacuous:

Sorry for pointing out what Cameron said: Cameron says Russian military action in Syria a 'terrible mistake' | Reuters

British Prime Minister David Cameron said on Sunday that Kremlin chief Vladimir Putin's decision to take military action in Syria to support Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was a "terrible mistake".
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"It's going to make the region more unstable, it will lead to further radicalisation and increased terrorism. I would say to them 'change direction, join us in attacking ISIL'."

[d000hg]

Hmmm...

Hurrah, the FaceBook "share before you think" memes are reaching CUK now.

Here's another one, even more vacuous:

[PurpleGorilla]

Who was it who once said that war is the show business end of politics?

They've been chomping at the bit since they lost the vote in 2013.

Except back then the enemy was Eurasia, and now it's Eastasia.

Correction. The enemy in 2013 was Eastasia. The enemy has always been Eastasia. Eurasia has always been our ally

That is so on the money it is unreal!