Reply to: bring a tear to your eye

[vetran]

HAving your livelihood - in fact the livelihood your family has known for generations - ripped away from under you with nothing to replace it, it's hardly surprising it has left a scar which hasn't yet healed.

Your Daily-Mail view of "generations of doleites" is either kind nor accurate as a generalisation. However the feelings in mining areas are of genuine hurt and disenfranchisement, these people genuinely (rightly or wrongly, it hardly matters at this point) believe they were shafted much as contractors feel they are being shafted right now. The heart of many communities were ripped out and that takes a long time to fix.

Strange all those Northerners I worked with in the 80s managed to find their bikes.

[SpontaneousOrder]

I wonder how many of those drink, smoke, have sky, mobile phones etcetc.

There is a huge amount of inequality in the UK.

BUT if you were to divide the UK wealth equally, in 6 months there would be a lot of poor people.

What I feel really sorry for is the children of the feckless.

Benefits should be paid in food vouchers. And child benefit in vouchers for child products.

That's what I think for 95% of the situation.

Food in the 21st century west is absurdly cheap.

[d000hg]

But since Maggie got in in 79 and the unions were squashed and the true value of the work the 'common man' does was revealed to not be worth that much we have been trying to send help.

But did it work, no.

Now 35 years on we now have generations of doleites who do not work, do not want to work and do not believe they have to work.

Sending more help is not working - work or starve - then lets see what happens.

HAving your livelihood - in fact the livelihood your family has known for generations - ripped away from under you with nothing to replace it, it's hardly surprising it has left a scar which hasn't yet healed.

Your Daily-Mail view of "generations of doleites" is either kind nor accurate as a generalisation. However the feelings in mining areas are of genuine hurt and disenfranchisement, these people genuinely (rightly or wrongly, it hardly matters at this point) believe they were shafted much as contractors feel they are being shafted right now. The heart of many communities were ripped out and that takes a long time to fix.

[EternalOptimist]

Poverty is relative surely. If you want to look at absolute poverty, look at my relatives. bl00dy spongers

[DimPrawn]

For the "fit and healthy" the problem is malnutrition through obesity.

Too fat to walk to the fridge?

[BlasterBates]

I have to agree with this. I know a few people like this and they just do not want to work.

I know that care for the elderly and other at risks groups have been cut, I imagine that many people that are undernourished fall into these categories.

that seems to be the problem and the fact that there is more of them.

i.e. lack of mobility means they end up eating pot noodles.

For the "fit and healthy" the problem is malnutrition through obesity.

[woohoo]

But since Maggie got in in 79 and the unions were squashed and the true value of the work the 'common man' does was revealed to not be worth that much we have been trying to send help.

But did it work, no.

Now 35 years on we now have generations of doleites who do not work, do not want to work and do not believe they have to work.

Sending more help is not working - work or starve - then lets see what happens.

I have to agree with this. I know a few people like this and they just do not want to work.

I know that care for the elderly and other at risks groups have been cut, I imagine that many people that are undernourished fall into these categories.

[BlasterBates]

Does this mean the obesity epidemic is over?

UK Obesity Epidemic Is Out Of Control - Medical News Today

Or is this inequality ?

Of course obese people are also suffering from malnutrition as the NHS describes malnutrition as being caused by undernutrition or overnutrition.

[original PM]

Then the sink estates will start to resemble the Middle East and you'll have a whole lot of problems...

Interesting - maybe we should try and see how it works out.....

[vetran]

I reckon the main thing likely to scupper Corbyn is his soft stance on everything.

FTFY

the man needs to grow a pair

[darmstadt]

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Sending more help is not working - work or starve - then lets see what happens.

Then the sink estates will start to resemble the Middle East and you'll have a whole lot of problems...

[original PM]

You're talking /snip
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Yes, education is a big part of the solution. These people (and they do exist though they're not as common as Daily Mail readers believe) don't know better, they should be helped not victimised.

/snip.

But since Maggie got in in 79 and the unions were squashed and the true value of the work the 'common man' does was revealed to not be worth that much we have been trying to send help.

But did it work, no.

Now 35 years on we now have generations of doleites who do not work, do not want to work and do not believe they have to work.

Sending more help is not working - work or starve - then lets see what happens.

[MrMarkyMark]

FTFY

I reckon the main thing likely to scupper Corbyn is his lack of any cohesive policies.

[scooterscot]

And I'm kind of with DP - if this kind of thing upsets you, do something to help. If you don't like big charities, donate to your local foodbank or church-run soup-kitchen or whatever grass-roots stuff you can find.

For the record we do help. We provide work opportunities to those back home with complex lives (i.e. such as those caring for another member of the family) - sometimes all that's needed is to be made to feel of use. Then positiveness follows.

[OwlHoot]

You do realise he's trolling, right, and are just playing along? ...

Whether he is or not, there are loads of young people, and not so young, who think exactly like that.

Anyone who can't afford to buy a home is quite likely to start thinking like that, and there are more and more of them every year ..

I reckon the main thing likely to scupper Corbyn is his soft stance on immigration.