Reply to: Should the Lords prayer be banned?

[NickFitz]

When I said Twitter, I actually meant well known commentators, TV and radio journalists and so on.

I have rarely seen the MSM in such wide agreement over an issue. Literally and I mean literally every columnist in every news paper is saying show it, and in no uncertain terms. Only dissenters are the Secular society.

As far as Twitter is concerned, everybody I follow who's either mentioned it or retweeted somebody who has is clearly of the opinion that it should not be shown. Seriously, 100% against - including journalists

[unixman]

I haven't seen anybody on Twitter saying it should be shown.

When I said Twitter, I actually meant well known commentators, TV and radio journalists and so on.

I have rarely seen the MSM in such wide agreement over an issue. Literally and I mean literally every columnist in every news paper is saying show it, and in no uncertain terms. Only dissenters are the Secular society.

[BrilloPad]

I haven't seen anybody on Twitter saying it should be shown.

Though that just demonstrates that any claim that "Twitter says…" means nothing, as every possible shade of opinion (and quite a few one would have thought were impossible) can be found on there.

It's a godsend to lazy journalists, who can find whatever stripe of opinion they want to claim to have found with a simple search, but it also means that claims that "All of Twitter" says something are inevitably false.

All lazy journalists need to do is post some trash. Then print the readers letters. Sorted....

[NickFitz]

Archbishop: We find this decision bewildering.
Vicars: We are mildly chagrined by this.
Cameron: it should be shown.
Daily Mail: THIS IS THE END OF LIFE ON EARTH AS WE KNOW IT
Dawkins: the advert should be shown
Every MP: show this advert now
The Devil: Even I want this shown now.
Secular society: We sort of don't want it shown
All of Twitter: it should be shown
Every newspaper columnist: show it! show it! show it!
God: Settle down.

I haven't seen anybody on Twitter saying it should be shown.

Though that just demonstrates that any claim that "Twitter says…" means nothing, as every possible shade of opinion (and quite a few one would have thought were impossible) can be found on there.

It's a godsend to lazy journalists, who can find whatever stripe of opinion they want to claim exists with a simple search, but it also means that claims that "All of Twitter" says something are inevitably false.

[unixman]

Archbishop: We find this decision bewildering.
Vicars: We are mildly chagrined by this.
Cameron: it should be shown.
Daily Mail: THIS IS THE END OF LIFE ON EARTH AS WE KNOW IT
Dawkins: the advert should be shown
Every MP: show this advert now
The Devil: Even I want this shown now.
Secular society: We sort of don't want it shown
All of Twitter: it should be shown
Every newspaper columnist: show it! show it! show it!
God: Settle down.

[SpontaneousOrder]

If you decide to open a business that only deals with white males then so be it - just do not expect it to do well.

Holy tulip.

Someone who can see the blindingly obvious fact that in a nation of decent people (which presumably democracy advocates think we are) don't need to wave guns in peoples faces to signal inappropriate behaviour.

The market (for both trade & social standing) is plenty enough, as bad behaviour is bad for business!

And all that without having to compromise your principles by getting all violent with people for having a different opinion than you.

Perhaps everyone can sell their votes for something more urgent than siccing the dogs on people who hurt your feelings.

[SpontaneousOrder]

I disagree as they have discriminated against religious groups in general. There are far worse adverts around.

In the same way they discriminate against porno vendors advertising. Or manufacturers of fizzy pop who don't want to pay as much as coca-cola.

Discrimination keeps us all alive.

[BrilloPad]

Christianity - an extra marital affair gone badly wrong.

[ZARDOZ]

Baby is born without a father to a virgin mother, has special powers, tempted by evil and brough back from the dead.

The other story is about Jesus and is clearly unsuitable for the audience of the former.

[NotAllThere]

Like Christmas is anything to do with religion.

And I'd love to see Christmas ads banned. And for that matter Christmas, but that's probably a bit radical.

You would only have to replace it with something. As the Church did with Saturnalia.

[BrilloPad]

They aren't "discriminating on Faith". They refuse all religion-related advertising, including advertising for the purpose of rejecting religion. That isn't discrimination.

Rejecting religious advertising is discrimination. Provided it is not offensive I don't see the issue.

[MicrosoftBob]

The UK is a secular country with deep pagan heritage. The Winter Solstice may have been hijacked by the Christians and renamed as Christmas, then the corporates hijacked Christmas selling to the none believers pretty trinkets but their are plenty of other traditions such as Samhain.

I hope the druids complain about the church tacomplaining. Private business are not allowed to discriminate on Faith, Gender or sexual orientation. Remember when other business were taken to court (and rightly so) for refusing to bake a cake/let a B&B room to a gay couple.

FTFY

[d000hg]

Doesn't Christian Aid Week get advertised?

[BrilloPad]

Discrimination implies favouring one group over others, so the examples you gave are not the same. This is a case of a business refusing all religious ads, not a case of favouring one religious group over another. Of course, if this turns out to be wrong and they are forced to show any religious ads before a cinema screening then get ready for ads with religious messages that you disagree with....

I disagree as they have discriminated against religious groups in general. There are far worse adverts around.

[NickFitz]

The UK is a secular country with deep christian heritage. Christmas may have been hijacked by the shops selling to the none believers pretty trinkets but their are plenty of other traditions such as Easter.

I hope the church take them to the cleaners. Private business are not allowed to discriminate on Faith, Gender or sexual orientation. Remember when other business were taken to court (and rightly so) for refusing to bake a cake/let a B&B room to a gay couple.

They aren't "discriminating on Faith". They refuse all religion-related advertising, including advertising for the purpose of rejecting religion. That isn't discrimination.