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Previously on "Stop the war doesn't want to stop the war"
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The yanks won't have any of it - most of them think Dubya is a good guy who did the right thing... If Blair gets done for war crimes their whole house of cards comes tumbling down.Originally posted by zeitghostEr, this year?
Next year?
Er, sometime?
Er, never?
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yes dear - whatever you say. I'll answer this with the following quote - which I'm in no doubt you have had quoted at you before more than once:Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostThe self loathing hypocrite is back. Happy to take all the benefits of privilege that the British system has bestowed upon him
I'd rather care about other people than be like you."I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Margaret ThatcherLast edited by Jog On; 5 November 2015, 13:34.
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Iraq, Libya and now Syria (via armed 'moderate rebels') did it all to themselves did they?Originally posted by tomtomagain View PostThat's complete rubbish.
It's not entirely due to our involvement. You cannot pin the the entire set of problems of a region on Western Liberal Democracies.
How's that Chilcott report coming on?
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Originally posted by Jog On View Post+1
The whole region is hell on earth due to our involvement. We should GTFO of there now and when the dust has settled pay heavy reparations out of Tony Blair's pocket as well as all the arms and oil companies that have made billions out of this horrendous campaign.
Yeah yeah - blah blah blah CBA to go round in the usual circles on this one. Just want it to stop and those behind it all to be brought to account.
The self loathing hypocrite is back. Happy to take all the benefits of privilege that the British system has bestowed upon him
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Why would that be? Or are you confusing them with neocons, who have absolutely nothing to do with them?Originally posted by darmstadt View PostBut you can on Western Right Wing Conservative Libertarians
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True whatever you think of his politics, he's not an opportunistOriginally posted by DodgyAgent View PostThere is a consistency and and honesty about Peter Tatchell that I admire. Unlike most lefties he genuinely believes in his cause and refuses to pander to anyone (including the Russians) in pursuit of his agenda.
Just a bit naive, e.g. trying to arrest Mugabe was always going to end in a beating
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There is a consistency and and honesty about Peter Tatchell that I admire. Unlike most lefties he genuinely believes in his cause and refuses to pander to anyone (including the Russians) in pursuit of his agenda.
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So getting rid of Assad will help what?
It'll help some but on the other hand it will lead to as big a conflict with ISIS v Putin.
With Assad gone, Haliburton would have to look elsewhere for their next project too.
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That's complete rubbish.Originally posted by Jog On View Post+1
The whole region is hell on earth due to our involvement.
It's not entirely due to our involvement. You cannot pin the the entire set of problems of a region on Western Liberal Democracies.
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The "Bishop of Baghdad" thinks that war is the only way to stop ISIS.
Canon Andrew White: 'Vicar of Baghdad' on leading a church in Iraq and being in the crosshairs of Isis | People | News | The Independent
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It stopped Gadaffi introducing a gold backed currency that would sink the U$D and left a power vacuum in another middle east state when we went in fudged the place up then left it to burn.Originally posted by AtW View PostIt stopped genocide by a single extremely well armed group that held power at the time. That's the best the West can do - they'll have to sort themselves out later.
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