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Previously on "Stop the war doesn't want to stop the war"

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    yes dear - whatever you say. I'll answer this with the following quote - which I'm in no doubt you have had quoted at you before more than once:



    I'd rather care about other people than be like you.
    So you say

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  • Jog On
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    Originally posted by zeitghost
    Er, this year?

    Next year?

    Er, sometime?

    Er, never?
    The yanks won't have any of it - most of them think Dubya is a good guy who did the right thing... If Blair gets done for war crimes their whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

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  • Jog On
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    The self loathing hypocrite is back. Happy to take all the benefits of privilege that the British system has bestowed upon him
    yes dear - whatever you say. I'll answer this with the following quote - which I'm in no doubt you have had quoted at you before more than once:

    "I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Margaret Thatcher
    I'd rather care about other people than be like you.
    Last edited by Jog On; 5 November 2015, 13:34.

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  • Jog On
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    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
    That's complete rubbish.

    It's not entirely due to our involvement. You cannot pin the the entire set of problems of a region on Western Liberal Democracies.
    Iraq, Libya and now Syria (via armed 'moderate rebels') did it all to themselves did they?

    How's that Chilcott report coming on?

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    +1

    The whole region is hell on earth due to our involvement. We should GTFO of there now and when the dust has settled pay heavy reparations out of Tony Blair's pocket as well as all the arms and oil companies that have made billions out of this horrendous campaign.

    Yeah yeah - blah blah blah CBA to go round in the usual circles on this one. Just want it to stop and those behind it all to be brought to account.

    The self loathing hypocrite is back. Happy to take all the benefits of privilege that the British system has bestowed upon him

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    I suspect if the countries were beacons of democracy & fairness we would leave them alone.

    ...as long as they didn't have something we wanted, like oil.

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  • Zero Liability
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    But you can on Western Right Wing Conservative Libertarians
    Why would that be? Or are you confusing them with neocons, who have absolutely nothing to do with them?

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    But you can on Western Right Wing Conservative Libertarians
    I suspect if the countries were beacons of democracy & fairness we would leave them alone. We westerners just love to interfere with the basket cases.

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  • MicrosoftBob
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    There is a consistency and and honesty about Peter Tatchell that I admire. Unlike most lefties he genuinely believes in his cause and refuses to pander to anyone (including the Russians) in pursuit of his agenda.
    True whatever you think of his politics, he's not an opportunist

    Just a bit naive, e.g. trying to arrest Mugabe was always going to end in a beating

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  • DodgyAgent
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    There is a consistency and and honesty about Peter Tatchell that I admire. Unlike most lefties he genuinely believes in his cause and refuses to pander to anyone (including the Russians) in pursuit of his agenda.

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
    That's complete rubbish.

    It's not entirely due to our involvement. You cannot pin the the entire set of problems of a region on Western Liberal Democracies.
    But you can on Western Right Wing Conservative Libertarians

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  • LondonManc
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    So getting rid of Assad will help what?

    It'll help some but on the other hand it will lead to as big a conflict with ISIS v Putin.

    With Assad gone, Haliburton would have to look elsewhere for their next project too.

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  • tomtomagain
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    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    +1

    The whole region is hell on earth due to our involvement.
    That's complete rubbish.

    It's not entirely due to our involvement. You cannot pin the the entire set of problems of a region on Western Liberal Democracies.

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  • NotAllThere
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    The "Bishop of Baghdad" thinks that war is the only way to stop ISIS.

    Canon Andrew White: 'Vicar of Baghdad' on leading a church in Iraq and being in the crosshairs of Isis | People | News | The Independent

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  • Jog On
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    It stopped genocide by a single extremely well armed group that held power at the time. That's the best the West can do - they'll have to sort themselves out later.
    It stopped Gadaffi introducing a gold backed currency that would sink the U$D and left a power vacuum in another middle east state when we went in fudged the place up then left it to burn.

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