Reply to: iPhone 6S

[d000hg]

iPhone 7 will be much better.

6S's biggest benefit is basically right mouse click's menu with some context relevant options shown, that really warrants going and spending £700 on a fooking phone.

Nobody said you should trade from a 6 to a 6s. Even if you did, you could sell your 6 for several hundred quid.

[AtW]

My recruiter phone is a 3310, battery lasts ages, can turn it off when in a contract to enjoy peace and quiet

3 weeks in my Samsung GT E1170, though battery getting flaky - only getting maybe 2 weeks now, might have to change it in a few years...

[NibblyPig]

My recruiter phone is a 3310, battery lasts ages, can turn it off when in a contract to enjoy peace and quiet

[scooterscot]

iPhone 7 will be much better.

6S's biggest benefit is basically right mouse click's menu with some context relevant options shown, that really warrants going and spending £700 on a fooking phone.

It's astounding, time is fleeting. And I've got to keep control. I'd give em £800

[AtW]

iPhone 7 will be much better.

6S's biggest benefit is basically right mouse click's menu with some context relevant options shown, that really warrants going and spending £700 on a fooking phone.

[scooterscot]

6s or 6s plus, which should I go for? Thinking about the plus being so keen on the photography.

Then it's which colour... decisions decisions.

[d000hg]

But, if they kept the hardware static and kept releasing new APIs, they would still magically find people writing code that was just fast enough

[NickFitz]

If we say each iPhone is 2X as powerful as the previous generation (which is roughly accurate) I don't think developers are getting twice as incompetent ever 2 years. Or that the typical apps are doing anything different.

Your argument is kind of counter-intuitive anyway. Incompetence will use up all the resources, but if you don't make the phone more powerful this is still the case

Current phones/tablets are just insane. I remember thinking that about the iPad3/4 and while we're not quite on the steep part of the performance curve any more, the newest iPads are surely getting on for 5X that performance - maybe 10X for the GPU?

It's a nice mirroring of the desktop development history a decade or two ago

Each new version of iOS (which roughly coincides with a new model with more powerful processors) adds new APIs. Developers add features to their apps because the new APIs are shiny. They don't actually know how to use those features efficiently (go on Stack Overflow and read a random selection of questions about Core Data on iOS if you don't believe me - and that API's been around since forever). So the new version of their app runs like a sloth on anything less than the new model with the most powerful processor, etc.

Then the next version of iOS comes out; rinse and repeat.

I would imagine one sees something similar in the world of Android, exacerbated - or perhaps alleviated - by the fact that many quite recent devices never even get an upgrade to the newer versions of the OS.

And you're quite correct - it's just the same as happened in the world of desktop. I bet Office 97 is blisteringly fast on even dirt cheap current hardware, but the very recent version ExClientCorp installed on the laptop I had to work on in my last gig ran like it was 97 on 97 hardware

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

He was an American. Those people think MF is svelte.

Also, it wasn't the 6 that was (in a tiny number of cases and only when considerable force was applied) prone to bending, it was the 6 Plus. Larger size => more leverage when you apply torsion.

The iPhone 6's do suffer from bending/warping issues. They are weak around the power and volume buttons. I had my first one replaced because it warped through normal usage (I don't keep my phone in my back pocket or sit on it). You could put it face down on the table and it rocked. Took it into an Apple Store, they looked at it and swapped it no questions asked.

My replacement also does it to a lesser extent but I'm out of warranty and can't be bothered to argue the toss over it (having already had the screen replaced due to a defect).

[d000hg]

Luckily there are lots of software developers who are lazy, incompetent, or both. They keep writing software that is so inefficient that it can barely run even on the latest hardware, thereby justifying the upgrade

If we say each iPhone is 2X as powerful as the previous generation (which is roughly accurate) I don't think developers are getting twice as incompetent ever 2 years. Or that the typical apps are doing anything different.

Your argument is kind of counter-intuitive anyway. Incompetence will use up all the resources, but if you don't make the phone more powerful this is still the case

Current phones/tablets are just insane. I remember thinking that about the iPad3/4 and while we're not quite on the steep part of the performance curve any more, the newest iPads are surely getting on for 5X that performance - maybe 10X for the GPU?

It's a nice mirroring of the desktop development history a decade or two ago

[pr1]

Bending moments.

torsion is also correct (twisting the ends in opposite clockwise/anticlockwise directions)

[minestrone]

He was an American. Those people think MF is svelte.

Also, it wasn't the 6 that was (in a tiny number of cases and only when considerable force was applied) prone to bending, it was the 6 Plus. Larger size => more leverage when you apply torsion.

Bending moments.

[NickFitz]

Other than gaming and a few niche areas (music for instance) modern phones are already vastly over-powered for most uses. But then so are desktops really.

Luckily there are lots of software developers who are lazy, incompetent, or both. They keep writing software that is so inefficient that it can barely run even on the latest hardware, thereby justifying the upgrade

[NickFitz]

If this is a normal use case, and something other phones can withstand, then it's reasonable to expect the 6 can do something the 5 could.

He was an American. Those people think MF is svelte.

Also, it wasn't the 6 that was (in a tiny number of cases and only when considerable force was applied) prone to bending, it was the 6 Plus. Larger size => more leverage when you apply torsion.

[d000hg]

multiple profiles (it'd be nice if iphone could have a thing where if your kid puts their thumb on it it unlocks the phone for just child-friendly (/parent approved) apps, but when you put your thumb on it's standard profile, so you're not worried they'll accidentally delete something or phone someone)

there's still a long way to go on battery life/battery technology

wireless charging

Doesn't Android support multiple profiles already - and besides this is a software issue not a hardware one. A new OS on current phones could fix it.

Battery technology mostly suffers BECAUSE they keep making the phones more powerful. If they kept performance constant using new technology, power usage would drop each iteration.

Wireless charging is already here. It's just not proving very popular, so hasn't become a standard feature.