Reply to: Real democracy?

[AtW]

There is only one real democracy - Switzerland.

People decide real issues on regular referendums.

The very same people got lots of guns just in case some scum in Govt would want to usurp control.

Now THAT IS the real democracy, do not accept any substitutes!

[unixman]

Uruguay?

Maybe. Not sure. Interesting president. Genuine everyday bloke. Uruguay doesn't seem to be regarded as a socialist country though, according to my 5 mins of research.

[DodgyAgent]

What the bombs we sold to Israel?

‘World stands disgraced’: 20 killed in Israeli UN school shelling — RT News

UK-Israel trade hits record high despite Gaza carnage

I do not deny that. i am simply putting a balance to your one sided bigotry. and do you suppose Israel would exist today if we had not sold them weapons?

[Jog On]

Are they the ones that Hamas was hiding its terrorists and weapons? Hamas Rockets Found in Second United Nations School - The Wire

What the bombs we sold to Israel?

http://www.rt.com/news/176576-gaza-un-school-strike/

http://www.rt.com/uk/194244-uk-israel-trade-inrcease/

Since 2010 alone,British authorities are estimated by CAAT to have presided over the sale of £42 million worth of military wares to the Middle Eastern state.

[DodgyAgent]

Our arms industry is also pretty robust - we sold all those bombs to Israel that are so effective at destroying hospitals and school playgrounds...

Are they the ones that Hamas was hiding its terrorists and weapons? Hamas Rockets Found in Second United Nations School - The Wire

[LondonManc]

So why do people buy them?

Nuclear weapons are built as a show of power and a deterrent.

Conventional weapons are built to maintain the imbalance of power that is needed to create further conflict and provide an opportunity to sell more weapons.

[DodgyAgent]

Because they are told that if they don't then they will be defeated.


It's called sales.

So they are that stupid are they?

[Jog On]

So why do people buy them?

Why do people buy anything.

in the case of US politicians - they are funded by said companies when campaigning to get into office there for owned by them.

Just Google 'military industrial complex' for more details.

Our arms industry is also pretty robust - we sold all those bombs to Israel that are so effective at destroying hospitals and school playgrounds...

In fact Dodgy - I'm sure if you were resourceful enough you could bag yourself a ticket to this years arms fair in London and hobnob with some of your tory chums - quaff a few for me - Boom Boom!

[WTFH]

So why do people buy them?

Because they are told that if they don't then they will be defeated.


It's called sales.

[DodgyAgent]

Because they are expensive and weapons manufacturers like money

So why do people buy them?

[pjclarke]

No, because nuclear war is not as profitable.
In a normal war you sell arms before it, during it, and after.
In a normal war, after it is over the rebuilding of infrastructure etc can start straight away (send for Haliburton).
Nuclear war just involves sales to one side before it and no sales during or after.
Nuclear war would result in several years of delays before rebuilding. The shareholders will not wait years, they demand immediate profits.

Worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confes...onomic_Hit_Man

[Jog On]

So why does the US build Nuclear weapons at all then?

Because they are expensive and weapons manufacturers like money

[DodgyAgent]

No, because nuclear war is not as profitable.
In a normal war you sell arms before it, during it, and after.
In a normal war, after it is over the rebuilding of infrastructure etc can start straight away (send for Haliburton).
Nuclear war just involves sales to one side before it and no sales during or after.
Nuclear war would result in several years of delays before rebuilding. The shareholders will not wait years, they demand immediate profits.

So why does the US build Nuclear weapons at all then?

[DodgyAgent]

This unfortunately is not a conspiracy theory.

This is a conspiracy theory:

"Radical islamic terrorists hate the West because of our decadent way of life and want to enslave the enire planet under Sharia law. That's right they are coming for you and if we don't bomb them into the stone age they will be on our shores. They will also carry out attacks here therefore we need to eavesdrop on all your communications"

Here's another one:

"Russia wants to expand and will take over the world if we don't beef up NATO, put bases encircling Russia and update all our nukes to the cost of £100BN - oh yeah and meet the NATO spending requirements"

Weapons manufacturing is a for-profit business - these business owners along with oil companies, banks etc own US politicians. This is not a conspiracy theory but a widely accepted truth.

Defence/war spending is pretty much a transfer of money from tax payers to profiteering companies

Believe what you want - but I'd ask you to think about the following question - "If US and our own politicians are 'owned' by corporate interest then what do these corporations want our politicians to do for them and how are we seeing that happen in the world today?"

If we get Jezza and they get Bernie things are going to change - I don't think the establishment will just let that happen so these are going to be interesting times.

Especially now Murdoch has just predicted a Corbyn win

Rupert Murdoch predicts Jeremy Corbyn will win Labour leadership contest - People - News - The Independent

You are Jeremy Corbyn?

[DimPrawn]

Two months before the next crash, grab a big loan and invest in precious metals then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_%28metaphor%29