Reply to: Should immigrants be allowed to bring their cultures to the UK?

[BrilloPad]

I don't see the difference between this guy and many of the men in this country anyway.

Only the other day I took the kids to a beach in the north west. Sun was shining and it was a lovely day. This guy, covered in tattoos with a hanky on his head and a string vest was smacking his wife around in front of a group of kids. Someone called the police and they managed to subdue him but he got free, stole the baton off one of the policeman and knocked him unconscious then starting hitting his wife with it, really hard. Then a crocodile came and stole the sausages........

Indeed. Odd how the kids love it. Or maybe not...

[tractor]

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I don't see the difference between this guy and many of the men in this country anyway.

Only the other day I took the kids to a beach in the north west. Sun was shining and it was a lovely day. This guy, covered in tattoos with a hanky on his head and a string vest was smacking his wife around in front of a group of kids. Someone called the police and they managed to subdue him but he got free, stole the baton off one of the policeman and knocked him unconscious then starting hitting his wife with it, really hard. Then a crocodile came and stole the sausages........

[MaryPoppins]

Most of the time I'm just pissing about while bored.

Now tell us, what's really bothering you? Come on, don't be sheepish.

😂😂

[GlenW]

One thing not touched on is the assertion, including by the judge, that it is indeed their culture to bash wives and kids. Seems a bit racist for her to say that, if you ask me.

Accurate though.

[meridian]

One thing not touched on is the assertion, including by the judge, that it is indeed their culture to bash wives and kids. Seems a bit racist for her to say that, if you ask me.

[MyUserName]

Within the context of the original post this seems to be a strange thing to say.

Are you suggesting that if the perp _didn't_ beat his wife and child, "just to fit in", then he would not be respecting British culture?

It would at least, apparently, make it interesting if people from cultures where it was accepted were allowed to beat their wives here!

[meridian]

Giving up your own culture - which is part of your identity - isn't being respectful if you are doing it just to fit in. A mixture of cultures makes the place more interesting.

Within the context of the original post this seems to be a strange thing to say.

Are you suggesting that if the perp _didn't_ beat his wife and child, "just to fit in", then he would not be respecting British culture?

[d000hg]

Not sure I agree. When I go to live abroad (please let it be soon) I intend to live like the locals do. Its their country and I respect that.

Giving up your own culture - which is part of your identity - isn't being respectful if you are doing it just to fit in. A mixture of cultures makes the place more interesting.

[tractor]

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Immigrants who beat their children should get special treatment, says judge - Telegraph

Maybe they could allow FGM too?

The question in the title is actually wrong (smacks of the way a politician would ask something to corner you into making the reply they want).

Arguably, the question should actually have been "Should culture be an acceptable defence in breaking UK laws?"

Of course, the answer then is more than likely "get stuffed, of course not"

[lilelvis2000]

Depends on what exactly their culture entails, shirley?

If it is something that is not illegal but is just not that common here then go for it. If it is something that is illegal here then they should be punished the same way anyone else would be.

I'd take a samosa over these meat pies any day. Thank god for Indian migrants.

[MyUserName]

Depends on what exactly their culture entails, shirley?

If it is something that is not illegal but is just not that common here then go for it. If it is something that is illegal here then they should be punished the same way anyone else would be.

[BrilloPad]

We should respect and even embrace other's cultures where they don't fundamentally conflict with our own values and beliefs. It's not difficult.

Q:Should immigrants be allowed to bring their cultures to the UK?
A:Yes.

Not sure I agree. When I go to live abroad (please let it be soon) I intend to live like the locals do. Its their country and I respect that.

I suppose Mrs BP will not be keen on the idea of going to Saudi though....

[d000hg]

Q:Should immigrants be allowed to bring their cultures to the UK?
A:Yes.

[MicrosoftBob]

Which further compounds the irony.
It comes to something when the level of trolling on this forum has been reduced to inconsistent feckwittery. At least SAS could maintain his position across multiple threads.

Isn't it a principality not a country though ?

[xoggoth]

We should respect and even embrace other's cultures where they don't fundamentally conflict with our own values and beliefs. It's not difficult.

But if they are illegal according to British law then generally they do conflict. While UK democracy is not perfect, laws are enacted by elected governments and are generally not too far out of line with the main consensus.

Smacking is not a great example of laws reflecting public opinion as many are opposed to curbs according to the DM:

Support to end smacking ban as parents say it would have prevented summer riots | Daily Mail Online

However, there is no point in having laws at all if anyone can opt-out on cultural grounds. It is essential that the law (even when it is being an ass, as in this case) is impartial.