Reply to: The latest immigration figures....

[Roger Mellie]

1948 wasn't?

Yep, 1948 and I believe it was initially funded using money from the Marshall Plan, which the US weren't too happy about. I think they wanted the money to be spent on US goods and services

[stek]

I thought the NHS has only been around since the 60's. That's what, 1.7 generations at most.

1948 wasn't?

[lilelvis2000]

its the IHS (international health service now) not the national health service.

"Free health care for the world" paid for by generations of uk workers

I thought the NHS has only been around since the 60's. That's what, 1.7 generations at most.

[mrdonuts]

its the IHS (international health service now) not the national health service.

"Free health care for the world" paid for by generations of uk workers

[Roger Mellie]

So what's wrong with rules that do allow such people in and keep out the unskilled with no links to the UK? Hardly that difficult.

Such common sense rules would be deemed as racist, fascist, xenophobic, islamphobic, climate change denial, Nazi, homophobic, bigoted and not fit for purpose "in the 21st century".

We need to be compassionate and surrender our homes, jobs, dignity, history and forever apologise for the British Empire. If all the immigrants left tomorrow, the entire UK would collapse because we're obviously too thick and stupid to operate our own country. The 'on the verge of collapse and debt ridden' NHS would collapse without immigrants and we need to keep the 1 million or so British youth on the dole too.

So please, no more suggestions based on common sense. We need more suggestions based on compassion and other Progressive narratives which normally end with "...in the 21st century" or at least have a reference to "the NHS".

[Roger Mellie]

I must admit, I am surprised there are more non-EU immigrants than EU immigrants.

However, putting a quota on non-EU immigration would run rough shod over all sorts of long standing international agreements. It would also require a swathe of immigration law/policy to be changed. Would we be comfortable for example in denying entry to children of UK passport holders living overseas? Or what about British born people overseas who relinquished their UK citizenship and decide to move home? What about highly skilled migrants? What about people who previously had right of abode in the UK, left, and now want to return? Pandora's box of consequences me thinks.

Indeed, I wonder how we coped before Tony Blair got in to power?

[xoggoth]

It doesn't actually say they were not checking for passengers under lorries and in cargos of dung but you are probably right to be sceptical.

[DimPrawn]

Mind you, if this is true, one can see immigration in a better light. Top 5 China, India, Spain, Australia, Poland. None of the obvious low performers there.

Immigration nation: where are Britain's migrants coming from, and why? - Telegraph

Sure. You can hardly walk down the street without bumping into Aussies, Spaniards and Chinamen. If you believe these figures you'll believe anything.

Source of the data - a passenger survey!

What utter bollox.

[xoggoth]

Mind you, if this is true, one can see immigration in a better light. Top 5 China, India, Spain, Australia, Poland. None of the obvious low performers there.

Immigration nation: where are Britain's migrants coming from, and why? - Telegraph

[fullyautomatix]

Anybody saw the Question Time yesterday ? A Bob was getting pretty agitated about immigration figures and how Derby was over run with immigrants.

I am sure many were tempted to remind him that he was an immigrant himself

[stek]

I think you'll find that the current rules already keep out pretty much every non-EU unskilled person who doesn't have any links to the UK.

For example, if you are an Australian without any links to the UK and want to move to the UK long term, in most cases you will need to have at least a masters degree and collect enough points to get a Tier 1 visa, ie, be highly skilled.

Tier 1 (formerly HSMP) has been closed for ages.

[darmstadt]

don't confuse him with facts!

Indeed: http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post2096776

[vetran]

Are you sure about that?

Britain hit by worst skills shortage for 30 years | Daily Mail Online

Is plumber's earning 100 grand a year evidence of wages being supressed?

When I compare international salaries, the UK looks pretty good.

when a CEO's Grandson working for Grampy's company makes up to £2k per week you mean?

[tractor]

....

Are you sure about that?

Britain hit by worst skills shortage for 30 years | Daily Mail Online

Is plumber's earning 100 grand a year evidence of wages being supressed?

When I compare international salaries, the UK looks pretty good.

In another Daily Wail story, I seem to remember they were exposing Polish plumbers who left Poland as labourers and arrived here a week later as fully qualified heating engineers. Go figure.

[BlasterBates]

Tax > Benefits is not the whole story. Housing,Schools, NHS etc need to be explored.




so suppressing wages by importing cheap labour is a good thing

Are you sure about that?

Britain hit by worst skills shortage for 30 years | Daily Mail Online

Is plumber's earning 100 grand a year evidence of wages being supressed?

When I compare international salaries, the UK looks pretty good.