Reply to: More migrants coming to the UK

[lilelvis2000]

Why on Earth does any EU country have any obligation whatever to let all these migrants stay in Europe?

I think most people who read about them are, although sympathetic, genuinely mystified why they can't just be shipped back to Libya where they came from!

They get sent back to their country of origin. Now if I was an Eritrean and I had indefinite slavery handed to me...would I hang around?

[lilelvis2000]

EU to impose migrant quotas forcing states to 'share' burden of influx | World news | The Guardian

UK should have voted UKIP. Oh I forgot - it did. But under the current rules they get 1 seat instead of 83.

I always thought that UKIP had a more open position on refugees than the Tories? I seem to recall Farage kinda being embarrassed that the UK has only taken in about 150 syrian refugees. Or did I interpret that wrongly?

[FatLazyContractor]

They don't need to do that as it's more economical advantageous to get Western born people.

If only those Western born people had the balls, we wouldn't be here in the first place.

[SueEllen]

Absolutely! It could be the game plan of ISIS to send "refugees" to the west and establish sleeper cells.

They don't need to do that as it's more economical advantageous to get Western born people.

[GlenW]

Absolutely! It could be the game plan of ISIS to send "refugees" to the west and establish sleeper cells.

Are sleeper cells not the new name for rooms at Premier Inn?

[FatLazyContractor]

They're asylum seekers coming from war torn countries for example where ISIS are murdering everyone.

They can be sent back if their asylum application is rejected.

Absolutely! It could be the game plan of ISIS to send "refugees" to the west and establish sleeper cells.

[BlasterBates]

They're asylum seekers coming from war torn countries for example where ISIS are murdering everyone.

They can be sent back if their asylum application is rejected.

[SueEllen]

Why on Earth does any EU country have any obligation whatever to let all these migrants stay in Europe?

I think most people who read about them are, although sympathetic, genuinely mystified why they can't just be shipped back to Libya where they came from!

I'm sure I read there has been bombing of Libyan targets to help decrease the number of economic migrants getting on the boats.

[OwlHoot]

Why on Earth does any EU country have any obligation whatever to let all these migrants stay in Europe?

I think most people who read about them are, although sympathetic, genuinely mystified why they can't just be shipped back to Libya where they came from!

[TykeMerc]

And that's part of the problem. Asylum seekers should not get a choice on where to live, their only genuine concern should be that they and their families are no longer in danger of their lives.

Choosing where you go turns you into an economic migrant, and there are already visa processes in place for this. Unfortunately, the lefties seem to think that an economic migrant on a boat can jump the queue in front of an economic migrant filling in the forms properly in New Delhi or wherever.

Indeed. The sheer act of putting their lives in mortal peril by boarding a raft to cross the Med apparently makes them a special case.

Unless they can justify an asylum claim then the economic migrants that are attempting what amounts to a seaborne invasion of Europe should be shipped back to their points of origin. If they refuse to name a point of origin, then there's some bits of Syria that I'm sure could accommodate. I don't have any sympathy for the economic migrants.

[Eirikur]

As a slight aside my better half had a German Work Permit about 7 years ago and that gave her visa-free travel through the Schengen area (visit - not to reside or work though)

Any non EU spouse of a EU citizen living in the EU has the right of visa free movement within the entire EU, when traveling with EU family members or to EU family members

[VectraMan]

As a slight aside my better half had a German Work Permit about 7 years ago and that gave her visa-free travel through the Schengen area (visit - not to reside or work though)

As most of the Schengen Area has no border controls there's no practical way of limiting travel to one country. At least if the migrants come to the UK we have the means to keep them in.

[SueEllen]

As a slight aside my better half had a German Work Permit about 7 years ago and that gave her visa-free travel through the Schengen area (visit - not to reside or work though)

It's not an aside.

It's the same reason someone given Italy residence papers can end up sleeping rough at Calais. The left leaning press occasionally interview someone like this and he* openly admits he has residence papers for another area of the EU.

The UK and Ireland aren't in the Schengen region for this very good reason.

Ireland was I think the last country in the EU to stop giving automatic citizenship to those who were born there with non-EU foreign parents. This was to prevent the baby's parents and other siblings using the European Convention on Human Rights to claim citizenship.

*It is always a young man.

[stek]

No they wouldn't. Only EU citizens are eligible for free movement, having a resident permit wouldn't allow them to go anywhere else.

At the end of the day whether we're in the EU or not the UK will be under pressure to accept some Asylum seekers, after all the UK does carry a responsibility for the situation in Irak and Afganistan.

As a slight aside my better half had a German Work Permit about 7 years ago and that gave her visa-free travel through the Schengen area (visit - not to reside or work though)

[vetran]

And that's part of the problem. Asylum seekers should not get a choice on where to live, their only genuine concern should be that they and their families are no longer in danger of their lives.

Choosing where you go turns you into an economic migrant, and there are already visa processes in place for this. Unfortunately, the lefties seem to think that an economic migrant on a boat can jump the queue in front of an economic migrant filling in the forms properly in New Delhi or wherever.

well said