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    #11
    Originally posted by stek View Post
    As a slight aside my better half had a German Work Permit about 7 years ago and that gave her visa-free travel through the Schengen area (visit - not to reside or work though)
    It's not an aside.

    It's the same reason someone given Italy residence papers can end up sleeping rough at Calais. The left leaning press occasionally interview someone like this and he* openly admits he has residence papers for another area of the EU.

    The UK and Ireland aren't in the Schengen region for this very good reason.

    Ireland was I think the last country in the EU to stop giving automatic citizenship to those who were born there with non-EU foreign parents. This was to prevent the baby's parents and other siblings using the European Convention on Human Rights to claim citizenship.

    *It is always a young man.
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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      #12
      Originally posted by stek View Post
      As a slight aside my better half had a German Work Permit about 7 years ago and that gave her visa-free travel through the Schengen area (visit - not to reside or work though)
      As most of the Schengen Area has no border controls there's no practical way of limiting travel to one country. At least if the migrants come to the UK we have the means to keep them in.
      Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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        #13
        Originally posted by stek View Post
        As a slight aside my better half had a German Work Permit about 7 years ago and that gave her visa-free travel through the Schengen area (visit - not to reside or work though)
        Any non EU spouse of a EU citizen living in the EU has the right of visa free movement within the entire EU, when traveling with EU family members or to EU family members

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          #14
          Originally posted by meridian View Post
          And that's part of the problem. Asylum seekers should not get a choice on where to live, their only genuine concern should be that they and their families are no longer in danger of their lives.

          Choosing where you go turns you into an economic migrant, and there are already visa processes in place for this. Unfortunately, the lefties seem to think that an economic migrant on a boat can jump the queue in front of an economic migrant filling in the forms properly in New Delhi or wherever.
          Indeed. The sheer act of putting their lives in mortal peril by boarding a raft to cross the Med apparently makes them a special case.

          Unless they can justify an asylum claim then the economic migrants that are attempting what amounts to a seaborne invasion of Europe should be shipped back to their points of origin. If they refuse to name a point of origin, then there's some bits of Syria that I'm sure could accommodate. I don't have any sympathy for the economic migrants.

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            #15
            Why on Earth does any EU country have any obligation whatever to let all these migrants stay in Europe?

            I think most people who read about them are, although sympathetic, genuinely mystified why they can't just be shipped back to Libya where they came from!
            Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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              #16
              Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
              Why on Earth does any EU country have any obligation whatever to let all these migrants stay in Europe?

              I think most people who read about them are, although sympathetic, genuinely mystified why they can't just be shipped back to Libya where they came from!
              I'm sure I read there has been bombing of Libyan targets to help decrease the number of economic migrants getting on the boats.
              "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                #17
                They're asylum seekers coming from war torn countries for example where ISIS are murdering everyone.

                They can be sent back if their asylum application is rejected.
                I'm alright Jack

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                  They're asylum seekers coming from war torn countries for example where ISIS are murdering everyone.

                  They can be sent back if their asylum application is rejected.
                  Absolutely! It could be the game plan of ISIS to send "refugees" to the west and establish sleeper cells.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
                    Absolutely! It could be the game plan of ISIS to send "refugees" to the west and establish sleeper cells.
                    Are sleeper cells not the new name for rooms at Premier Inn?
                    I'm not even an atheist so much as I am an antitheist; I not only maintain that all religions are versions of the same untruth, but I hold that the influence of churches, and the effect of religious belief, is positively harmful. [Christopher Hitchens]

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
                      Absolutely! It could be the game plan of ISIS to send "refugees" to the west and establish sleeper cells.
                      They don't need to do that as it's more economical advantageous to get Western born people.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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