Reply to: new road tax rules

[psychocandy]

Hmm. Seems like a bit of a con.

Also, didnt know that anyone can now check to see if a cars taxed or not online. This is going to be good for the busybodies (like my neighbour).

Got a classic car which we only tax (and use) during the summer. So its on the driveway when not taxed but on the road when it is. Winds neighbour up for some reason that we stick it on the road.

Taxed it online at the weekend then stuck it on road. Im betting the online system is not updated immediately so you can bet hes checked by now. Waiting for please to knock my door so I can show them the printout.

[VectraMan]

Not any more you don't. I bought a banger from a dealer on saturday for my son. Dealer taxed it online for him there-and-then and no insurance details were required which is just as well since he doesn't have any yet.

Normally when you renew online the system checks to see if there's insurance (and an MOT) automatically. Maybe you're right: for my new car I've paid the dealer in advance for the tax; not sure how that's going to work. And I get free 3 day "drive home" insurance, so it will be insured when I pick it up but potentially only for 3 days.

Not legally you can't. Insurance is needed even just to park on the public road. Also if you let someone else drive it then often it's a requirement of their policy that the car is properly insured by the owner.

So basically nobody understands what's going on.

[Contreras]

Have to admit, my road tax renewal is a couple of months overdue now, and no fines in the post yet (although I know there are some road tax checking cameras dotted around).

I think you might expect to receive a penalty at some point soon regardless (happened to me when I took a car off the road and simply ignored the tax reminder). Only way to avoid this is to declare it SORN, which then makes it a more serious offence to drive it.

You need insurance to get tax, not the other way around. But having taxed it you can cancel the insurance and park it on the road, or let someone else drive it.

Not legally you can't. Insurance is needed even just to park on the public road. Also if you let someone else drive it then often it's a requirement of their policy that the car is properly insured by the owner.

[Grasser73]

You need insurance to get tax, not the other way around. But having taxed it you can cancel the insurance and park it on the road, or let someone else drive it.

Not any more you don't. I bought a banger from a dealer on saturday for my son. Dealer taxed it online for him there-and-then and no insurance details were required which is just as well since he doesn't have any yet.

[VectraMan]

But won't I have to get my road tax up to date, and backdated to when it expired, in order to renew my car insurance? (I certainly wouldn't drive uninsured.)

You need insurance to get tax, not the other way around. But having taxed it you can cancel the insurance and park it on the road, or let someone else drive it.

[BrilloPad]

An expression about geese, feathers and hissing comes to mind.

I was just watching a program on player about rise of Hitler. Amazing what people will tolerate.

I'm off back to my flat screen TV and cheap booze.

[vwdan]

possibly but expect your insurance company to try.

Oh, if you're trying to claim for your own repairs/damages through fully comp absolutely* but there's so much scaremongering about "Doing [x] means you're not insured" which simply isn't true, because there's very little the insurer can do to not deal with a 3rd Party claimant. As that's the legal requirement, if you purchased insurance for that vehicle then you're almost certainly insured within those bounds.

That's not to say there's no repercussions, mind - if they cancel your insurance after the fact you've got problems going forwards!

*Mind you, I've had 2x fully comp claims and they never actually did any real due diligence then. Might be different now it's all electronic now, I guess.

[vetran]

Urban myth. (The invalid insurance bit, not the computer bit)

possibly but expect your insurance company to try.

[vwdan]

FTFY

money from old dopes

you know its on the computer don't you?

Urban myth. (The invalid insurance bit, not the computer bit)

[vetran]

Er, the insurance company prefers if you don't tax it as it invalidates your insurance.

FTFY

money from old dopes

you know its on the computer don't you?

[OwlHoot]

One of those is the thread I started on it last year. It's a worse system IMHO. God knows how many more untaxed and uninsured cars are on the road now.

Have to admit, my road tax renewal is a couple of months overdue now, and no fines in the post yet (although I know there are some road tax checking cameras dotted around).

But won't I have to get my road tax up to date, and backdated to when it expired, in order to renew my car insurance? (I certainly wouldn't drive uninsured.)

[ZARDOZ]

One of those is the thread I started on it last year. It's a worse system IMHO. God knows how many more untaxed and uninsured cars are on the road now.

[xoggoth]

This is a KUATB squared:

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...tax-discs.html
http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ules-pita.html

However, pointing out that the government are bastards can never been done too many times in my view.

[VectraMan]

Getting a new car on Friday so I'm falling right into this one.

[Gumbo Robot]

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