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Originally posted by BolshieBastard View PostYou obviously didnt listen then and had a closed mind.
Im not scottish and dont live in Scotland so have nothing to benefit from the SNP. But, I thought she gave the best account of all the party leaders. Milliband was very good and cameron just harked on to the past.
She isn't going to win over anyone with much of an awareness of economics.
Originally posted by NickFitz View Post"This problem can never be completely solved, therefore we shouldn't try to solve it at all, and nor should we care if we make it worse." Is that what you're saying?
Originally posted by SueEllen View PostThe leaders aren't thick.
They just know how to use spin effectively so voters hear what they want to hear.
The larger parties have one big problem which is the leaders are men. They wouldn't look good on screen attacking a female leader of a smaller party on their policies so they have to leave it to the journalists to do....Last edited by Zero Liability; 3 April 2015, 11:51.
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostAs for Cameroon, I get the feeling he was treating the whole thing as an unnecessary side show of no real value and, given it was one against six, he was never going to win any points so let's play the senior statesman card. A view with which I have some sympathy.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostLeast theyare bloody going to votethinking about voting if they actually bother is a different matter.
I'm working on the younger members of my family though it's much easier to convince those who live in a marginal that their vote counts.....
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Originally posted by Euler View PostPoverty will always exist in every society.
Here for example.
Sturgeon came across well to the simple-minded because her "arguments" consisted of the simple, platitudinous, cliched verbiage that simpletons like.
I'm not surprised you were taken in.
In particular she showed no appreciation of the fact that the NHS needs reform in the direction of the European private-public partnership model if it is to survive at all.
I find it amazing how some of our wannabe leaders are so thick.
They just know how to use spin effectively so voters hear what they want to hear.
The larger parties have one big problem which is the leaders are men. They wouldn't look good on screen attacking a female leader of a smaller party on their policies so they have to leave it to the journalists to do....
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Originally posted by mudskipper View Postms#4 tells me most of her uni mates are going to vote green.
I'm working on the younger members of my family though it's much easier to convince those who live in a marginal that their vote counts.....
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I did not watch it, I find Sturgeon's chat utterly cringing and twee.
And if she was dribbling on about poverty then that is laughable, she cut 140,000 college places to pay for the free tuition fees for the middle class children, they were often the starting point for working class kids to get to uni.
So now there are less working class kids at university in Scotland than in England.
Her headline grabbing policies that were there to buy the votes of the middle classes have only entrenched poverty in Scotland.
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostIn a word Poverty.
It's an utter disgrace such a wealthy country expects poverty to increase its hold on a greater number of Brits in the coming years. She challenged the others how this can happen in a country such as ours when so much in aid is being pumped out. And yet the other leaders shrugged off the matter. Clegg brushed on mental health, made some good points. And it was clear Cameron was a passenger throughout.
As for Cameroon, I get the feeling he was treating the whole thing as an unnecessary side show of no real value and, given it was one against six, he was never going to win any points so let's play the senior statesman card. A view with which I have some sympathy.
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Originally posted by Euler View PostPoverty will always exist in every society.
Here for example.
Sturgeon came across well to the simple-minded because her "arguments" consisted of the simple platitudinous cliched verbiage.
I'm not surprised you were taken in.
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostIn a word Poverty.
It's an utter disgrace such a wealthy country expects poverty to increase its hold on a greater number of Brits in the coming years. She challenged the others how this can happen in a country such as ours when so much in aid is being pumped out. And yet the other leaders shrugged off the matter. Clegg brushed on mental health, made some good points. And it was clear Cameron was a passenger throughout.
Here for example.
Sturgeon came across well to the simple-minded because her "arguments" consisted of the simple, platitudinous, cliched verbiage that simpletons like.
I'm not surprised you were taken in.
In particular she showed no appreciation of the fact that the NHS needs reform in the direction of the European private-public partnership model if it is to survive at all.
I find it amazing how some of our wannabe leaders are so thick.Last edited by Euler; 3 April 2015, 10:12.
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Originally posted by Zero Liability View PostWhat was it that Sturgeon said that was so impressive?
It's an utter disgrace such a wealthy country expects poverty to increase its hold on a greater number of Brits in the coming years. She challenged the others how this can happen in a country such as ours when so much in aid is being pumped out. And yet the other leaders shrugged off the matter. Clegg brushed on mental health, made some good points. And it was clear Cameron was a passenger throughout.
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Originally posted by oracleslave View PostI can't think of a more unappealing, damp squib, uninspiring no hoper with less charisma than a mannequin that I have ever seen, either in real life or on telly. He needs a foam-hand style capital L permanently ensconced on his forehead.
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