Reply to: Register to vote

[vetran]

seriously?!

Yes when it was proposed they could gain the vote certain MPs were all over their potential new constituents.

I don't see how one follows the other.

Presumably some despot could enact laws to criminalise every person in a country, and by your logic those people should have no reason to suggest that they have any say in how just that government or it's policies are? They did, after all, lose their freedom and right to live in a free society - why should they be allowed?

You (presumably) suppose that it's just for governments to govern because they represent the will of the governed. If prisoners are no longer represented then how is it just that they are still subject to governance?

I'm not likely to be benefited by breast feeding,maternity or similar laws yet these laws were made in my name and I support them.

None of us born here as British citizens actively chose to be governed by parliament, the law or the queen yet we are by these separate entities.

If I commit a serious crime the law says I lose certain privileges one of which is the vote. By committing the crime I actively chose not to be able to vote.

If a despot decided to criminalise the public it would likely be considered unlawful and the despot deposed.

[SpontaneousOrder]

obvious reason is that they could band together and elect or cultivate a sympathetic MP.

seriously?!

They lost their freedom and right to live freely in society, why should they be allowed to vote?

I don't see how one follows the other.

Presumably some despot could enact laws to criminalise every person in a country, and by your logic those people should have no reason to suggest that they have any say in how just that government or it's policies are? They did, after all, lose their freedom and right to live in a free society - why should they be allowed?

You (presumably) suppose that it's just for governments to govern because they represent the will of the governed. If prisoners are no longer represented then how is it just that they are still subject to governance?

[vetran]

Never understood that.

obvious reason is that they could band together and elect or cultivate a sympathetic MP.

They lost their freedom and right to live freely in society, why should they be allowed to vote?

[SueEllen]

But why would I want to vote in a country I do not live in? Well its a laugh isn't it..

Why not?

Lots of people who live in the country can't be bothered to vote so it may be extended to those who use to live here and may do again as least if they register they may actually do so.

When the French elections were on there was campaigning in London for a couple of the candidates.

[SpontaneousOrder]

People in prison don't get to vote

Never understood that.

[scooterscot]

That's cos you are a f**kwit.

You vote to select the candidate in the constituency you live in or have lived in.

I've never settled in Scotland, Wales or NI so won't ever be able to vote for SNP, Plaid Cymru or Sinn Féin.

But why would I want to vote in a country I do not live in? Well its a laugh isn't it..

[SueEllen]

That's rather amusing, someone in Germany can vote SNP but someone in England cannot.

That's cos you are a f**kwit.

You vote to select the candidate in the constituency you live in or have lived in.

I've never settled in Scotland, Wales or NI so won't ever be able to vote for SNP, Plaid Cymru or Sinn Féin.

[DodgyAgent]

Being Thick is not a lifestyle choice. So less of the insults please

[SueEllen]

As an EU citizen, you have the right to vote in local elections and European elections (on the latter you may even choose if you want to vote for a representative of your host country or of you country of citizenship)
It is annoying though not to be able to vote for national elections, especially when you're a higher rate taxpayer and more intelligent than most of the locals.

When you get done for a crime and have a jury trial you are judged by your peers. If the peers who are selected to judge you are as thick as tulip then tough.

It's the same in elections - people may be thick as tulip but the criteria for voting is nothing to do with how intelligent you are or how much money you pay in. In fact the people who actually bother to read the stuff the candidates put out tend not to vote as they realise they won't any of them to represent them.

[Eirikur]

So because I've been living in the EU, I'm a EU citizen without the ability to vote until now. It's not something you'll be aware of until you move out of the country.

It's amazing how many people living in the EU don't have a right to vote.

As an EU citizen, you have the right to vote in local elections and European elections (on the latter you may even choose if you want to vote for a representative of your host country or of you country of citizenship)
It is annoying though not to be able to vote for national elections, especially when you're a higher rate taxpayer and more intelligent than most of the locals.

[Batcher]

Vote SNP you'll get Tory anyway.

Vote SNP, get SNP.

[scooterscot]

Does that mean I can register to vote in Scotland ?

I might vote SNP....

(if you can't beat them)

That's rather amusing, someone in Germany can vote SNP but someone in England cannot.

Next you'll be complaining about your offspring paying Scottish university tuition fees whilst mine return from the fatherland with nothing to pay.

Got to love democracy.

[BlasterBates]

Does that mean I can register to vote in Scotland ?

I might vote SNP....

(if you can't beat them)

[darmstadt]

People in prison don't get to vote in UK elections, but people in Germany do.

Democracy, it's great.

I don't

[TestMangler]

Vote SNP you'll get Tory anyway.